And they get to watch and sell your video to the police!
Agreed! Donāt buy ring products. Terrible escalation of surveillance culture.
- When making a video request to Ring, law enforcement must reference a relevant case, and can only request video recordings within a limited time and area. With each request, customers decide whether to share all relevant videos, review and select certain videos to share, take no action (decline), or opt-out of all future requests.
āRing is a troubled company. Last week a panel of five United States senators sent a letter to Amazon chief Jeff Bezos that expressed concern with Ringās struggles with information security and habit of sharing its usersā videos not only with law enforcement but also with its Ukraine-based research team. The senators wanted to know how Ring encrypts user data (if at all) and how its internal security audits work. This is all happening after unsettling reports that Ring doorbells exposed usersā home wi-fi passwords to hackers and that Ring employees spy on unwitting users.ā
Read more about it here: Don't Buy Anyone a Ring Camera
Would definitely steer clear of Ring. Iām a little disappointed at woot tooā¦ Beyond the spying and lack of transparency from Ring, this doorbell requires a monthly service fee if you want to actually record and review the video. That should be clearly stated in the description. I would recommend the Eufy doorbell. No monthly fees, keeps all the video local and has a much better video camera.
Fake news! The police donāt ābuyā videos from Ring.They can request it or get a warrant if it contains evidence related to a crime. Keep your tin foil hat on and donāt buy it if you donāt want it but stop spreading nonsense.
Itās not fake news that Amazon employees and Ring employees have had unfiltered access to folksā Ring videos in the past. It is not fake news that Ring partners (police) have no common standards for security and data retention for videos they obtain. It is not fake news that Ringās privacy policy does not collect information of people under 13 yet they use captured footage of kids during halloween in a promo video. it is not fake news that Ring has been sending videos to contractors in Ukraine without permission of the owners.
Some of the concerns may be overblown, to be sure, but donāt try to dismiss some of the serious privacy concerns that Ring raises.
Itās EXACTLY what it is. Fake News.
There is NO unfiltered access, by anyone except the owner of the product. This has been debunked already.
There are absolutely standards for the police to receive ANY video and how and what they are able to do with them. Again, this bull has been debunked.
Collect information of people under 13? Yeah, clearly youāre believing the bull that you read. Some simple fact checking will show youāre clueless here.
Sending videos to contractors in Ukraine? LMAO. Stop watching Fox News and believing itās truth, fool.
If youāre allowing companies to put their cameras and microphones in and outside your home, thatās on you. CCTV is the only way.
Soo uhh is this a good dealā¦?
Iām not at all disappointed in Woot. Who owns woot and who owns ring? The answer to both is Amazon. Thatās why you will continue to see this, fire tablets, and all kinds of other stuff dumped on here. And it should be no surprise.
I had two of these before we knew Ring was super-evil-creepy-panopticon-nonsense, and even aside from all that it was terrible. The video quality was abject garbage, the battery life was so-so, even at their best they were unreliable. Then when they both stopped working within a couple weeks of each other 9 months after I bought them I learned that Ringās tech support and customer service are also complete trash.
They also purportedly file all the paperwork for monitored alarm services for you, and they botched that as well. It wound up taking me way longer to fix the bureaucratic mess Ring made with my city by filing my permit wrong than it would have taken to just file it myself.
My advice: donāt ever buy anything from Ring. Their products are bad, their politics are bad, and their customer service is bad.
Edit: for the record, my Wifi was not the problem (although Ringās tech support script seemed hell-bent on that being the problem). Iāve got Arlo cameras now in the exact same places the Rings used to be. They record reliably, and the video quality is massively better.
If you DO NOT pay for the subscription, and YOU can not see recorded video of an incidentā¦Does ring still record/store videos somewhere.
With each request, customers decide whether to share all relevant videos, review and select certain videos to share, take no action (decline), or opt-out of all future requests.
It has been shown that no user interaction or request has been requested for Amazon to turn over ring doorbell video to police.
When making a video request to Ring, law enforcement must reference a relevant case, and can only request video recordings within a limited time and area
It has been shown that Amazon have ( although since removed) provided a āheat mapā of Ring doorbell locations FOR law enforcement to scan and ācherry pickā location / time and also that ālimited time and areaā is untrue. They have requested all, āsurrounding this areaā, and Amazon provided it without question. NO homeowners were contacted.
There are absolutely standards for the police to receive ANY video and how and what they are able to do with them. Again, this bull has been debunked.
Quite the opposite. While Amazon may SAY āwe need a warrant / we donāt release videos without homeowner consentā etc etcā¦ what they actually do behind closed doors is something completely different.
Note: I donāt own a Ring. Nor do I own a Google Assistant. They both have privacy issues and buyers should be aware. I do own a CCTV system whos recordings are held locally and and accessible āfrom the cloudā but for which no ābig businessā company is involved.
New are on sale for $130 so this price is pretty good if youāre okay with a used or a refurb. Refurb saves you $40 vs a new and has the same limited warranty as a new unit. Used saves you another $20 but only has a 90 day warranty.
Other than āboth owned by Amazonā, what is the relationship between Ring and Blink? Blink seems like a better deal, except for the actual ādoorbellā part, which I donāt really care about. I have motion detection, so I see them on my porch, and can talk to them, whether they knock or not. Thereās an acceptable amount of cloud video included as well.
I have two of the Ring 2 doorbells and love them. Battery life is ~6 months, but will vary depending on traffic to/from each door as well as your settings.
The video quality is great, however this is dependent upon the rssi to your network as it will scale down the resolution if you do not have a solid signal.
The last couple times these were up on Woot, the refurbs were $69.99 and āusedā was not an option.
Iāve had a Ring D2 for about a year and itās great. Video and sound quality are both nice. Battery lasts a few months and gives you plenty of warning when itās getting low.
You do need to sign up for a plan that costs $3 a month to access past videos, Otherwise you can only monitor live notification.
From some of these posts, it makes me wonder what people are doing on their front porch to be so paranoid about someone seeing the video. If the police need to see my front lawn to help with some crimeā¦go for it.
What do you do outside your front door that has you all nervous about this?