Are you kidding me??? This offer even with the $5 shipping is for a brand new, in box model and you think the refurb for only $10 less is a deal? Total with shipping difference is $15. Hands down the all new beats the crap out of the refurb, hands down! BTW, it should also be mentioned the new product comes with a full year factory warranty. What would an extended, one year warranty cost on the refurb you think is such a good deal?