CRKT discontinued these a while ago. And I don’t know about the MSRP, even the Woot price is too much for AUS8 cruddy steel.
I own one of these and I have been very pleased with it. I carry it with me just about every day. It is on the weighty side but not too bad. Very sturdy construction and has stayed sharp despite all the daily use.
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… even the Woot price is too much for AUS8 cruddy steel.
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I saw here that they can cut through a tank, though!??
http://theflintskinny.blogspot.com/2011/02/ill-stab-you-right-in-shadow.html
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CRKT discontinued these a while ago. And I don’t know about the MSRP, even the Woot price is too much for AUS8 cruddy steel.
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Cruddy? Please explain…
Here is a video from the designer of these knives
The video should start where these knives are first mention. Luckily for me he talks about these two knives back to back until 2:30 in the video.
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Cruddy? Please explain…
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It’s not “cruddy” compared to the mystery steel you get from, like, an M-Tech at a gas station or something, but it’s not a premium steel.
Personally, I hate Tanto-style blades, and I’m not a fan of the AutoLAWKS system, so I’d steer clear of this knife. Plus, for $50 I’d rather have a Cara Cara 2 G10 and $20 left over.
CRKT’s page on the knife:
http://www.crkt.com/TriumphT?&search_id=27638
I have an assisted open CRKT with the same kind of serrations (mini my-tighe) and the strange serrations are quite handy. Makes short work of cutting rope and other such material.
CRKT “Outburst” assisted opening is VERY “snappy” especially compared to most other brands, especially kershaw.
As for the Aus-8 steel…isn’t it what Coldsteel and SOG use almost solely? Sure there is crappily-produced AUS-8 out there, but that mainly comes down to the heat treatment, something I’d expect CRKT is a reputable enough of a company to take care of.
tl;dr…I like CRKT, I like knives, CRKT knives are good, in for one.
These knifes are MADE IN CHINA & TAWAIN.
At that price I urge you to buy something from a manufacture you could trust more on the quality control side. Aus8 is okay steel if it’s heat treated correctly. All the chinese blades I’ve tried(Kershaw, crkt, sog) are inconsistent as far as edge sharpness and retention. Personally the last thing I want breaking during hard use is my knife…
edit: I also noticed this knife appears to only have a clip setup for right handed people with the tip pointed down. Most people I know prefer to have a knife setup for tip up carry so you don’t have to fumble with the knife to open it. So this knife will never be as quick and easy to open as other adjustable knifes.
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CRKT discontinued these a while ago. And I don’t know about the MSRP, even the Woot price is too much for AUS8 cruddy steel.
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Don’t fall for “steel snobbery” like this; AUS8 is an excellent steel.
Sure, it might not hold an edge longer than some other steels, but it is extremely easy to sharpen. A beginner can get a wicked edge on an AUS8 blade without much trouble.
Even so, it’s edge retention is more than adequate.
Sure, there are plenty of AUS8 blades that are crappy, but this is because of shoddy production and heat treatment, not a fault of the steel. I’d gladly take a well-made AUS8 blade over an S30V, VG-10, or other more-expensive steel that has been inadequately or unevenly heat-treated.
In all, AUS8 is great stuff, and gives an excellent balance of edge retention, rust resistance, and ease of sharpening. And CRKT makes great knives.
So don’t worry about it and fall prey to steel snobbery.
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Don’t fall for “steel snobbery” like this; AUS8 is an excellent steel.
So don’t worry about it and fall prey to steel snobbery.
Source: http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/811466/
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I don’t fall prey to snobbery but I do notice poor steel. In my experience kershaw 8cr13mov tends to get nicks in the blade within weeks to months of reasonably mild use. One out of three held a great edge but had the worst chips in the blade. CRKT aus8 didn’t hold an edge for long, I was sharpening it every few days vs weeks/months with my benchmade.
You better tell me this is Japanese, German or American made in the tags or $40 for a pocket knife easily struck off by the Chinese ain’t worth it.
Steel snobbery indeed…type of steel is almost irrelevant compared to the processing of the steel.
I wouldn’t ever pay $45 for a bit of serrated sheet metal.
The writeup for this knife is awesome. Great work @wootlive!
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These knifes are MADE IN CHINA & TAWAIN.
At that price I urge you to buy something from a manufacture you could trust more on the quality control side. Aus8 is okay steel if it’s heat treated correctly. All the chinese blades I’ve tried(Kershaw, crkt, sog) are inconsistent as far as edge sharpness and retention. Personally the last thing I want breaking during hard use is my knife…
edit: I also noticed this knife appears to only have a clip setup for right handed people with the tip pointed down. Most people I know prefer to have a knife setup for tip up carry so you don’t have to fumble with the knife to open it. So this knife will never be as quick and easy to open as other adjustable knifes.
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Yip, should be about $0.36 cents including shipping. I’m so tired of companies trying to make a massive profit on Chinese garbage. I’ll gladly pay a premium like this for Made in USA blades. CRKT should be ashamed, Woot should drop the price about 90% and consumers should vote better with their wallets. You work hard for your disposable income to blow on Woot, at least spend it on quality products.
[QUOTE=JonTwelve, post:9, topic:356038]
These knifes are MADE IN CHINA & TAWAIN.
At that price I urge you to buy something from a manufacture you could trust more on the quality control side. Aus8 is okay steel if it’s heat treated correctly. All the chinese blades I’ve tried(Kershaw, crkt, sog) are inconsistent as far as edge sharpness and retention. Personally the last thing I want breaking during hard use is my knife…
edit: I also noticed this knife appears to only have a clip setup for right handed people with the tip pointed down. Most people I know prefer to have a knife setup for tip up carry so you don’t have to fumble with the knife to open it. So this knife will never be as quick and easy to open as other adjustable knifes.
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wrong. i work for a major distributor that sells all the brands of knives you named and just to let you know, KERSHAW is the only brand made in the US. all others, including CRKT (and mcnett, byrd, buck, winchester, victorinox, boker, spyderco, and magnum) are china or taiwan. Spyderco has a few high end knives that are made in japan and petzl are made in france (like opinel).
Ok people I’v seen enough crap talk about AUS 8 now. AUS 8 is a fine steal depending on how the company in question heat treats it. AUS 8 heat treated correctly can perform better then others such as VG10. Like I said it just depends.
Now that I got that out of the way (long deep breath). This blade was more gear towards a self defense “tactical” blade consumer. Although there are situations where it could be EDCed but because of the rough textured handle and blade grind I would say that if you are interested in getting a knife for a back up to a pistol or just as a primary weapon it would fit that bill. It really just depends on what your in the market for.
Also if you happen to be a knife guy like myself then perhaps you may just want to get this for collectability or something. considering its out of production and the price is great. Amazon is still selling these for just under $100 so id say its a good deal.
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Ok people I’v seen enough crap talk about AUS 8 now. AUS 8 is a fine steal depending on how the company in question heat treats it. AUS 8 heat treated correctly can perform better then others such as VG10. Like I said it just depends.
Now that I got that out of the way (long deep breath). This blade was more gear towards a self defense “tactical” blade consumer. Although there are situations where it could be EDCed but because of the rough textured handle and blade grind I would say that if you are interested in getting a knife for a back up to a pistol or just as a primary weapon it would fit that bill. It really just depends on what your in the market for.
Also if you happen to be a knife guy like myself then perhaps you may just want to get this for collectability or something. considering its out of production and the price is great. Amazon is still selling these for just under $100 so id say its a good deal.
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I agree with your assessment.
The CRKT Crawford Triumph knife is a high quality assisted opening design that is easily worth $45 shipped.
The blade steel is AUS 8, a Japanese steel that is widely used in knives and, until recently, considered to be a “premium” steel.
The knife itself is made in Taiwan. As is typical of knives imported into the USA from Taiwan, build quality is excellent and much higher than typical Chinese build quality.
Spyderco produces some of its knives in China and has been a primary promoter of 8Cr13MoV Chinese steel as being on par with Japanese AUS 8. In my experience, this is not true, possibly because the Chinese steel is often not heat treated as well.
There’s a lot of misinformation in this thread. For one, Buck makes the vast majority of its knives in the USA and is moving production of the few knives it makes in China back to the US.
Yes, I’d much rather that the CRKT Triumph be made in the US out of 154CM or S30V steel, but it is still an excellent knife.
Criticisms of the knife:
- the G10 scales are so grippy that they will shred your pants underneath the clip.
- the blade design is not the most utilitarian, but is most useful for self defense.
After almost chopping my fingers off with another knife whose lock failed, I really like the AutoLAWKS feature on the CRKT Crawford Triumph, especially since the knife is designed for “tactical” purposes.
I’d suggest you check local laws regarding “spring assisted” knives before purchasing.
I own several CRKT knives, all of which have gone far beyond my expectations, and one of which is virtually indistructable. I even stabbed it right through a brick with no damage to the blade or coating, it even stayed razor sharp. That being said this is another example of CRKT quality, CRKT designs it’s knives around exactly what they are meant to be used for, this knife is a tatical last resort defense knife so the steel is a great choice, can get very sharp and doesnt need to stay sharp long, it’s a great knife for what it’s designed for.