Daily Offer 3/13/15: Saeco Espresso Machines

Today at Woot, instead of one thing in the daily deal spot, we’re giving you ALL THE SAECOS YOU COULD EVAR ESPRESSO!!!

And since it’s a special kinda sale, we thought it needed a special kinda discussion place that you can find here.

LINK TO THE OFFER: http://www.woot.com/plus/saeco-espresso-machines

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Saeco Minuto Class Espresso Machine Silver
Price: $399.99 - 499.99
Shipping Options:: $5 Standard
Shipping Estimates: Ships in 1-2 business days (Monday, Mar 16 to Tuesday, Mar 17) + transit
Condition: Factory Reconditioned

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Product Page

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Product Page for the HD8765

How well do they handle hard water?

Check out the product page for the Intuita

Can’t speak to these machines specifically, but in general medium to hard water should be filtered before going into an espresso machine. Aside from prolonging the life of the machine, you’ll also get better espresso. It’s a win/win.

That said, if you look closely the cheapest of the three machines woot is offering, there’s no mention of a descaling cycle. That should at least raise an eyebrow for folks with hard water.

Woot, I think these descriptions and pictures are all jacked up.

This is an HD8765:

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=us&ctn=HD8765/47

This is an HD8772:

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=us&ctn=HD8772/47

The post for the HD8765 looks to be showing an HD8772 and the post for the HD8772 looks like an HD8773 without the milk frother.

What is actually being sold here?

[MOD: It’s fixed now. Seem my post below.]

You’ll need a good quality (not consumer) espresso grinder if you want to make good espresso. Buy your last grinder first

[MOD: Grider is built in.]

I’ve been making espresso since 2008 at home, and home roasting coffee the whole time too. No matter which espresso machine you use, it will scale up if you use hard water

to clean up my water I use an RO system, then run it (the filtered water) through a calcium calcite? cartridge that adds back 40 PPM hardness, since the RO filter removes all of the TDS (total dissolved hardness). You want some hardness so you can taste your coffee. If you brew with 0 TDS water your coffee will taste tinny

I suggest anyone wanting to make espresso at home, research this well before you start buying equipment. Ask n00b questions on coffee geek, home-barista

WOW! $400.00! Glad I gave up coffee 15 years ago!!!

I use distilled water in mine. Keeps minerals from building up in the boiler.

The Grinder is in the Machine for sale! And a very good one!

Brewing espresso at home is a hobby for a lot of people, a lifestyle for others. that said, those that want to save money on equipment can if they watch for bargains on used equipment at places like Craig’s list (for instance)

When I hung out on the Gaggia forum years ago, it was common for peeps there to walk into lightly used Gaggia machines that cost $500 new, for $50 or less, on aforementioned for sale sites

What would happen, maybe a boiler became calcified and wouldn’t move water, so the owner priced it to sell. For the savvy buyer, all that was needed was a little TLC and the machine is working for little dinero

the big thing with the Gaggias have been to install PID to bypass the wild (all over the place) temp stat that comes standard on those consumer machines. A little time and a little money that machine can pull shots that compare with espresso machines costing well over a grand (thousands), but you have to want it to do it, and the grinder is by far the most important piece of equipment to have, if you want to make good espresso

These have a built in grinder, so wouldn’t make sense to buy a separate grinder. No?

I got one of these (the 8772) last time around on Woot (12/2014) and I’m very happy with it. I’ve tried coffee at home many different methods and this is by the easiest, least hassle machine. If you’re a purist and you want to tap and measure and weigh, you won’t like this machine. It has some adjustment, but does all of the work for you. Cleaning is easy and it’s well-designed.

The Saeco machines have a descaling cycle, and the Minuto Class has an optional built-in water filter (I filter mine first) and selectable water hardness, and a descaling cycle - I’m sure Saeco makes a ton off their decalcifying agent because it’s expensive! Not sure about the others.

This wooter is 100% correct. Built-in ceramic grinders and reservoirs. These are superautomatics; once you have them programmed to your liking, you just keep the water reservoir & bean hopper topped off, and coffee/espresso is made at the press of one button.

But if you DO drink coffee, superautomatics are so much cheaper than even a Mr. Coffee, because of the accurate dosage of the amount of beans. Very little waste, and your coffee lasts longer. Well, maybe not cheaper than a Mr. Coffee, but one hella lot cheaper than a Starbucks habit!

Bought a Saeco on Woot about 2 1/2 years ago and LOVE IT. Yes it is expensive but once you taste the difference you’ll never want to go back. We have very hard water and have not experienced any problems yet. Customer service has been excellent with the few times I’ve called with questions/problems and everything was resolved in minutes.