# Derby Preview #782: Sci-Fi

**URL:** <https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189>\
**Category:** Artist Central\
**Created:** [September 21, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189 "2020-09-21T23:50:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lady5tark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/lady5tark/32/7424_2.png) [@Lady5tark](https://forums.woot.com/u/Lady5tark)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/1 "2020-09-21T23:50:22Z")

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I don’t know much about it, so not many rules this week. ['Cept these](https://forums.woot.com/t/design-content-guidelines-for-woot-creatives/581356). And [these.](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-guidelines/370334)

And don’t go tryin to get tricky with politics and cream shirts. That’s a perma-ban. Except those times I make exceptions.

\*This Derby begins **MONDAY October 5th at**** 8pm, CST. **& ends** MONDAY October 12th at ****8pm, CST.** _The three winning designs will be featured as the Daily offers Tuesday-Thursday. Great designs that don’t win may be included in an Editor’s Choice sale on Friday, so be sure to check back and see who makes the cut!_

Please be sure to have your artwork ready to submit with your entry as part of the new submission process!

If you want to submit any off-topic designs, [submit here!](https://shirt.woot.com/artists)

If you are new to the derby and want to participate, WELCOME! Also, in addition to the rules above please check out our [content guidelines](https://forums.woot.com/t/design-content-guidelines-for-woot-creatives/581356)here so you know what works and what doesn’t over here at Woot!

You can also download [updated templates](https://forums.woot.com/t/updated-design-templates-for-artists/353847)for your artwork [over here](https://forums.woot.com/t/updated-design-templates-for-artists/353847). Happy designing

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**Author:** ![benjaminleebates](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/benjaminleebates/32/1173742_2.png) [@benjaminleebates](https://forums.woot.com/u/benjaminleebates)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/2 "2020-09-23T12:13:25Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/woot/original/4X/d/5/d/d5d292083f886a5347b25109bcac2dce96de6e12.gif)

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**Author:** ![benjaminleebates](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/benjaminleebates/32/1173742_2.png) [@benjaminleebates](https://forums.woot.com/u/benjaminleebates)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/3 "2020-09-29T15:33:39Z")

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Hey artist…  
I know most of you don’t care. You’ll draw whatever you please and no one will stop you!

Take a minute and jump through this rabbit hole with me, will you!?  
[https://www.writersdigest.com/writing-articles/the-difference-between-science-fiction-and-fantasy-what-every-screenwriter-needs-to-know](https://www.writersdigest.com/writing-articles/the-difference-between-science-fiction-and-fantasy-what-every-screenwriter-needs-to-know)

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**Author:** ![krittikae](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/krittikae/32/2901_2.png) [@krittikae](https://forums.woot.com/u/krittikae)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/4 "2020-10-04T17:43:48Z")

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Well, you knew it was coming…

 ![sci fi mission comp](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/woot/original/4X/d/1/9/d197bd5d341b398e504a36384a2d1131c9ec1d50.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Lady5tark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/lady5tark/32/7424_2.png) [@Lady5tark](https://forums.woot.com/u/Lady5tark)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/5 "2020-10-05T17:56:14Z")

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This is too long for me to read, cliff notes?

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**Author:** ![benjaminleebates](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/benjaminleebates/32/1173742_2.png) [@benjaminleebates](https://forums.woot.com/u/benjaminleebates)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/6 "2020-10-05T18:05:53Z")

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> [@Lady5tark](#):
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> This is too long for me to read, cliff notes?

A quote…  
“Basically, if the fantastical elements in your story can’t be explained by science, then it’s not pure science fiction. And if you’re not writing strictly science fiction, then you’ve got a whole new ballgame called fantasy.”  
It argues that most sci-fi is actually a mixture of sci-fi and fantasy.  
Pure sci-fi would need to be based on something possible, following known laws of physics, or giving good explanation on how they have been changed. The point is that pure sci-fi is a slim genre, most has a flare of fantasy.

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**Author:** ![Lady5tark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/lady5tark/32/7424_2.png) [@Lady5tark](https://forums.woot.com/u/Lady5tark)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/7 "2020-10-06T00:07:03Z")

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Alright, I’m gonna need some help on the rejections here…Star Wars - in or out? Star Trek - in or out? Mando - in or out?

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**Author:** ![fishbiscuit5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/fishbiscuit5/32/2987_2.png) [@fishbiscuit5](https://forums.woot.com/u/fishbiscuit5)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/8 "2020-10-06T00:11:49Z")

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If you reject Star Wars, there won’t be anything left in the derby. Also, I’ll be rejected so… 😬

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**Author:** ![Lady5tark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/lady5tark/32/7424_2.png) [@Lady5tark](https://forums.woot.com/u/Lady5tark)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/9 "2020-10-06T00:15:25Z")

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HAhaha, thats what I’m afraid of! This was not a good rabbit hole to go down.

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**Author:** ![fishbiscuit5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/fishbiscuit5/32/2987_2.png) [@fishbiscuit5](https://forums.woot.com/u/fishbiscuit5)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/10 "2020-10-06T00:17:37Z")

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I didn’t draw Baby Yoda this time if that helps. 😂

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**Author:** ![benjaminleebates](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/benjaminleebates/32/1173742_2.png) [@benjaminleebates](https://forums.woot.com/u/benjaminleebates)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/11 "2020-10-06T01:10:44Z")

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> [@Lady5tark](#):
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> Alright, I’m gonna need some help on the rejections here…Star Wars - in or out? Star Trek - in or out? Mando - in or out?

I think it’s all good. The truest sci-fi genre is too narrow for a purist to have any ground to stand… It’s all sci-fi+

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**Author:** ![SubBass49](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/subbass49/32/262430_2.png) [@SubBass49](https://forums.woot.com/u/SubBass49)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/12 "2020-10-06T01:12:09Z")

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Couple of mine are not subbing for some reason…really weird. One on Heather Gray and the other on Brown…the other designs subbed just fine though, and I used the same formatting for the files on all of them.

Help?!?

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**Author:** ![SubBass49](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/subbass49/32/262430_2.png) [@SubBass49](https://forums.woot.com/u/SubBass49)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/13 "2020-10-06T01:12:37Z")

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Like, the entire process goes through like normal, but they never show up in the derby.

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**Author:** ![stevegoll68](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/stevegoll68/32/167390_2.png) [@stevegoll68](https://forums.woot.com/u/stevegoll68)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/14 "2020-10-06T03:29:34Z")

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I completely goofed and spelled Wookiee wrong in my submissions. I sent revisions to Kate to hopefully fix. Don’t wanna lose the votes but also don’t want to be losing out on votes because people are upset I spelled it wrong.

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**Author:** ![SubBass49](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/subbass49/32/262430_2.png) [@SubBass49](https://forums.woot.com/u/SubBass49)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/15 "2020-10-06T04:13:36Z")

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Got it sorted…must have been something to do with my thumbnails…that animated gif stuff works beautifully…until it doesn’t

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**Author:** ![pgallastegui](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/pgallastegui/32/447790_2.png) [@pgallastegui](https://forums.woot.com/u/pgallastegui)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/16 "2020-10-06T13:47:36Z")

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For what is worth, I scrubbed a SW post and went hard Sci-fi idea… That was a great read!

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**Author:** ![benjaminleebates](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/benjaminleebates/32/1173742_2.png) [@benjaminleebates](https://forums.woot.com/u/benjaminleebates)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/17 "2020-10-06T13:53:56Z")

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> [@pgallastegui](#):
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> For what is worth, I scrubbed a SW post and went hard Sci-fi idea… That was a great read!

Thanks… I love to read about different perspectives like that, I think it keeps us all more mentally agile when it comes to designing, and not just blindly falling into all the old tropes.

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**Author:** ![pgallastegui](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/pgallastegui/32/447790_2.png) [@pgallastegui](https://forums.woot.com/u/pgallastegui)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/18 "2020-10-06T14:26:37Z")

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Absolutely! Totally a hobby for me (luckily, considering… 4 shirts picked in my history) so I appreciate the challenge, but I would love to see strict rules every couple of months or so, though. It seems most weeks if it is barely, tangentially, perhaps by some strange connection somewhat related to something that comes close to the topic it gets accepted. I understand doing it every week would about ruin the derby, but…

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**Author:** ![benjaminleebates](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/benjaminleebates/32/1173742_2.png) [@benjaminleebates](https://forums.woot.com/u/benjaminleebates)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/19 "2020-10-06T14:33:13Z")

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> [@pgallastegui](#):
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> Absolutely! Totally a hobby for me (luckily, considering… 4 shirts picked in my history) so I appreciate the challenge, but I would love to see strict rules every couple of months or so, though. It seems most weeks if it is barely, tangentially, perhaps by some strange connection somewhat related to something that comes close to the topic it gets accepted. I understand doing it every week would about ruin the derby, but…

Back in the day, they used to be very strict. The tattle button really meant something. The themes were a little more specific. They really made designers work for it. We only had 24 hours between the theme announcement and the derby start. And yet, we got REALLY great art and the votes were over 2000, on a regular basis.

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**Author:** ![pgallastegui](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/woot/user_avatar/forums.woot.com/pgallastegui/32/447790_2.png) [@pgallastegui](https://forums.woot.com/u/pgallastegui)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.woot.com/t/derby-preview-782-sci-fi/649189/20 "2020-10-06T15:37:40Z")

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My oldest t-shirt bought is from a long time ago, but in terms of designing I submitted a few designs here and there a few years back, but really got back into it this year after finally getting some digital drawing tools, so I am not super familiar with how the rules worked before. I always hate marginalizing anybody, but a few times myself I’ve kinda said “well, this is not totally on topic, but somewhat close enough.” That’s why I was thinking perhaps having one strict one every couple of months or so may really get our juices flowing. Now, as a person working 2 jobs and with a two-year old at home… 1 day to think, design, and prepare the files?! Yikes! New mad respect for all of you all long timers.

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