Emblem Napa Valley Petite Sirah (3)

[Cesare]

Emblem Napa Valley Petite Sirah 3-Pack
Sold by: Folio Wine Company, LLC
$79.99 $168.00 52% off List Price
2012 Emblem Petite Sirah, Oso Vineyard, Napa Valley

Previous offer:
3/20/17

[MarkDaSpark]

Darn you Mill! And darn buying more than one set!

Speed to first woot: 0m 40.337s
First sucker: mill
Last wooter to woot: MarkDaSpark

[Grape]

A Woot! Flying Monkey dropped off a sample bottle today, complete with WW Golden Ticket! :happy:

Tasted this tonight with my son and daughter-in-law. Tasted again at home about 2 hours after it was first opened,

Emblem Oso Vineyard Petite Sirah 2012

Tasted upon opening, and it was tasty, but unusual for a PS, as it didn’t have a ton of tannins.

Lovely aromas coming from the glass of the usual PS suspects (blueberry, blackberry, etc.), as well as a lovely deep, rich red color. More after the 2 hours.

This is a good PS that you’d pour for somebody who isn’t into PS to introduce them – it’s very varietally correct. But give it two hours to open.

This is a very nice wine to accompany burgers, steaks, lamb, and anything on the grill.

The cork looked in good condition, both before removing it and after.

Color: Nice deep red color. 5 out of 5

Nose: Slight hint of black cherry and blackberry. Opened more after 2 hours. 10 out of 15

Taste: Fruit was still very evident, with a nice balance of acidity and oak. Medium body with creaminess. Not oaky. Some tannins, but not the in your face ones. 17 out of 20

Finish: Nice long finish. 7 out of 10

Overall rating is 89 out of 100

Overall Thoughts: Very nice PS, Without the face smashing tannins. We all enjoyed it.

[cortot20]

@MarkDaSpark

Darn you Mill! And darn buying more than one set!

Speed to first woot: 0m 40.337s
First sucker: mill
Last wooter to woot: MarkDaSpark

[Grape]

A Woot! Flying Monkey dropped off a sample bottle today, complete with WW Golden Ticket! :happy:

Tasted this tonight with my son and daughter-in-law. Tasted again at home about 2 hours after it was first opened,

Emblem Oso Vineyard Petite Sirah 2012

Tasted upon opening, and it was tasty, but unusual for a PS, as it didn’t have a ton of tannins.

Lovely aromas coming from the glass of the usual PS suspects (blueberry, blackberry, etc.), as well as a lovely deep, rich red color. More after the 2 hours.

This is a good PS that you’d pour for somebody who isn’t into PS to introduce them – it’s very varietally correct. But give it two hours to open.

This is a very nice wine to accompany burgers, steaks, lamb, and anything on the grill.

The cork looked in good condition, both before removing it and after.

Color: Nice deep red color. 5 out of 5

Nose: Slight hint of black cherry and blackberry. Opened more after 2 hours. 10 out of 15

Taste: Fruit was still very evident, with a nice balance of acidity and oak. Medium body with creaminess. Not oaky. Some tannins, but not the in your face ones. 17 out of 20

Finish: Nice long finish. 7 out of 10

Overall rating is 89 out of 100

Overall Thoughts: Very nice PS, Without the face smashing tannins. We all enjoyed it.

Thank you for the notes!

[webdev511]

2012 eh? seems like that’s right at the tail end (or beginning?) of a PS dumb period (7-9 years if I recall).

[MarkDaSpark]

@webdev511

2012 eh? seems like that’s right at the tail end (or beginning?) of a PS dumb period (7-9 years if I recall).

Nope. It’s about the time to START drinking. Any sooner is infanticide!

The dumb (or muted) stage starts around 10 to 15 years, and can last 5 to 10 years. According to the PS God, Kent Rasmussen.

[MarkDaSpark]

@KRWINE

Hi, Kent here
It seems to me that Petite Sirah is one of the most interesting wines when it comes to the issue of aging and drinking. Young PS is big, rich, usually pretty tannic and above all full of luscious fruit. Funnily enough, unlike a Cab. Sauv., even though they are structurally huge, they are still very drinkable when they are young—mostly because of the charm of all the wonderful fruit. Once a PS is about 10-15 years old it usually starts to go through a “dumb” phase as it loses it’s fruit, but then when they get really old – 20-25 years they come around again like no other wine I have ever had….wonderful rich Bordeaux-like complexity…tons of that cedar-cigar box character that you always associate with really nice old clarets. So my recommend is drink them young or let them sit forever—most PS have the structure to handle the age.
What made me “an expert” on old PS: A few years ago there was a small wine shop in the San Francisco Bay Area that bought people’s cellars. He also bought our wine, but unfortunately, while the fellow who ran the shop was a nice guy, he didn’t pay his bills. One day I was in the shop (collecting a bill) and he had dozens of bottles from the late 1960s to about 1980 of California PS on a table…I said…why? And he told me that when he resold the wine he bought from collections he could never get anyone to take the PS. I made a deal with him that we would trade a bottle of our wine for a bottle of PS…he got something he could sell and I got paid. Over the course of the next year or so (before the IRS caught him) we traded about a hundred bottles and Celia and I had old old PS for dinner several nights each week. These were the great old fathers of PS…Concannon, Burgess, Freemark Abbey, Ridge, and so on. Other than an occasional corky bottle we never had a single one that was “over the hill”. It was a treat and a rare opportunity to learn about old PS.

“Once a PS is about 10-15 years old it usually starts to go through a “dumb” phase as it loses it’s fruit, but then when they get really old – 20-25 years they come around again like no other wine I have ever had….wonderful rich Bordeaux-like complexity…tons of that cedar-cigar box character that you always associate with really nice old clarets. So my recommend is drink them young or let them sit forever—most PS have the structure to handle the age.”

[rpm]

@MarkDaSpark

“Once a PS is about 10-15 years old it usually starts to go through a “dumb” phase as it loses it’s fruit, but then when they get really old – 20-25 years they come around again like no other wine I have ever had….wonderful rich Bordeaux-like complexity…tons of that cedar-cigar box character that you always associate with really nice old clarets. So my recommend is drink them young or let them sit forever—most PS have the structure to handle the age.”

True Dat!

[deckerbrian]

Any buyers from the previous offer want to give some input?

[coynedj]

@MarkDaSpark

Nope. It’s about the time to START drinking. Any sooner is infanticide!

The dumb (or muted) stage starts around 10 to 15 years, and can last 5 to 10 years. According to the PS God, Kent Rasmussen.

I still have six bottles of Kent’s 2007 Esoterica PS - I guess I’ll have to hold on to them for a while yet, then.

[MarkDaSpark]

@coynedj

I still have six bottles of Kent’s 2007 Esoterica PS - I guess I’ll have to hold on to them for a while yet, then.

Kent said 10 to 15 years, so you could pop one to see.

If it stays muted, even after hours of decanting, then you’ll have to wait for the others. Worst case, you can use it to make a terrific red wine sauce!

[kylemittskus]

@coynedj

I still have six bottles of Kent’s 2007 Esoterica PS - I guess I’ll have to hold on to them for a while yet, then.

tytyger (and company?) opened one recently and said it was no bueno. I’ll see if I can find his comment.

[rpm]

@MarkDaSpark

“Once a PS is about 10-15 years old it usually starts to go through a “dumb” phase as it loses it’s fruit, but then when they get really old – 20-25 years they come around again like no other wine I have ever had….wonderful rich Bordeaux-like complexity…tons of that cedar-cigar box character that you always associate with really nice old clarets. So my recommend is drink them young or let them sit forever—most PS have the structure to handle the age.”

In the early 1990s, I once came across quite a bit of old Concannon PS - a case each of 1970 and 1974 at ridiculous prices of around $50-60 per case. I drank them over about 15 years (finished up around the time of the first Tour). They were truly remarkable wines that were just stunning every time we opened them. Similarly, I went through a case of 1978 Ridge York Creek PS between its 20th and 30th birthdays. Equally spectacular. I agree with Kent that good PS needs to be drunk (if you like ink…) young or put away 'til it’s about 20…

[rpm]

@coynedj

I still have six bottles of Kent’s 2007 Esoterica PS - I guess I’ll have to hold on to them for a while yet, then.

I’ve got the better part of a case… I’m saving it for my dotage in another 10 years or so.

[pseudogourmet98]

I have some 2006 and 2007 Meeker PS. If I choose not to hold it for another 15ish years do you think it’s still in the drink now phase?

[MarkDaSpark]

@rpm

In the early 1990s, I once came across quite a bit of old Concannon PS - a case each of 1970 and 1974 at ridiculous prices of around $50-60 per case. I drank them over about 15 years (finished up around the time of the first Tour). They were truly remarkable wines that were just stunning every time we opened them. Similarly, I went through a case of 1978 Ridge York Creek PS between its 20th and 30th birthdays. Equally spectacular. I agree with Kent that good PS needs to be drunk (if you like ink…) young or put away 'til it’s about 20…

Thanks!

FYI, drinking the remainder of the bottle tonight (about 1.5 glasses), and it’s goooooood.

[kylemittskus]

@pseudogourmet98

I have some 2006 and 2007 Meeker PS. If I choose not to hold it for another 15ish years do you think it’s still in the drink now phase?

Only one way to find out…

[MarkDaSpark]

@pseudogourmet98

I have some 2006 and 2007 Meeker PS. If I choose not to hold it for another 15ish years do you think it’s still in the drink now phase?

How many bottles?

The 2007 might be okay, open one to see. If it’s muted, make some red wine sauce with the bottle.

Edit: As Kyle said, pop them and see. Just be ready to use them for sauces or BBQ.