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HP Quad-Core Desktop with 2TB HD
Price: $359.99
Shipping Options: $5 Standard
Shipping Estimates: Ships in 3-5 business days (Thursday, Apr 10 to Tuesday, Apr 15) + transit
Condition: Factory Reconditioned

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Let’s learn a little about the processor[youtube=YQn19kV8p4k][/youtube]

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Let’s learn all about USB 3.0

could I throw a nice graphics card into this and have a decent MMORPG machine?

This processor performs on par with a dual core Intel i3. Don’t be fooled by the quad core moniker. This processor only has two physical cores, with two logical cores per physical core. That’s significantly different from a processor with four physical cores. For example, the lower clocked quad-core Intel Core i5-3330 performs better at only 3.0GHz than this processor performs at 3.5GHz.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1998&cmp[]=1475

Here’s the Passmark score for the processor included in this unit.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A8-6500+APU

Depends on your definition of “decent”. It will run World of Warcraft at an acceptable frame rate with a stand alone graphics card. You won’t get stellar results with many other MMORPGs.

How much risk are you taking with a PC that has been “reconditioned”? How old is this computer and what parts fail that usually need the reconditioning?

This video does not demonstrate the same processor that is in the unit being sold here, but it is a nice promo for AMD.

My experience has been that factory reconditioned units are more reliable than new units because they’ve been tested more thoroughly.

The reason they require reconditioning can be anything from a simple “Open Box” return with nothing wrong to a failed capacitor, power supply unit, bad chip, etc. It really could be anything that can be repaired for less than the value of the unit (i.e. the component can be repaired and the unit will still resell at a profit).

I’ve purchased 2 “reconditioned” woot desktops over the past 5 years…both failed rather quickly.

I bought one back in October 2011. I loaded it to the max with memory, added a USB 3.0 card (only had 2.0 onboard), and it’s been running great since.

I bought another recently to build a VM server, but it’s been too recent to offer another opinion.

Overall, I’ve been pleased with mine.

I have been here since 2004, have bought a lot of stuff and only had 2 issues. As for PCs, I have purchase 7 over the years, none have failed. Your mileage may vary.

There is a reason why “RECONDITIONED” units have a 90 day warranty and not one year. A SquareTrade extended warranty is much cheaper on a new machine than a reconditioned.

Agree 100%. I have been buying reconditioned computers, laptops and electronics for as long as I’ve been in business (15 years) and have only had one failure to date. (It was a home theater system, incidentally) HP re-certified PCs and laptops have yet to fail me.

To be fair, there are a couple things to consider when comparing this to the I5-3330. First of all, regardless of clock speed the I5 has a max TDP of 77 watts whereas the A8-6500 has a max TDP of only 65 watts. So based on energy consumption is using almost 20% more energy when achieving those benchmarks. In addition, the I5-3330 sports an Intel HD 2500 graphics which scores an avg G3D mark of less than 306 (since the HD 3000 scores a 306) the A8-6500 has the HD 8570D graphics which has an avg G3D of 661 more than twice the performance with less power consumption. The I5 is a great chip and based on your primary use it could be a better fit. The A8-6500 is a more balanced all around processor though that can do some gaming without requiring a discreet video card. I love both Intel and AMD, I have computers using I5’s, I7’s and APU’s - regardless of what people say both manufacturers have chips that fit certain niches better than the other. Today’s computer is a nice deal- the biggest negatives are 1)no HDMI out (which is poor design implementation on HP’s part for not selecting the right MB) 2)windows 8- just because it does not include mediacenter. If you do not need mediacenter (or use a different 3rd party mediacenter) and if HDMI out is not a concern, then this is a good deal for the $$.

I bought one very similar to this from woot around 2010…writing this post from it right now. It’s been an awesome work horse, but I’ve also upgraded quite a few things. The upgrades I’ve done…

  1. Upgraded the ram to 12 gigs (mine only came with 4 gigs back then…adding 8 was easy and cheap).

  2. Bought a solid state harddrive and added it as my primary drive. Moved the huge 2TB (think mine is 1TB, but still) as a secondary drive where I store all my media and recovery files. So happy I did this…love the performance boost and pretty cheap and easy. You should be able to pick one up for $100ish.

  3. Just recently, after picking up a pair of the 27" HP HD monitors…I bit the bullet and put a good video card and bigger power supply into it. I went with a GTX 760 card and a 600 watt power supply, which is probably more than I needed and set me back about $250-$300ish.

On one hand, that’s a lot of money to dribble into a cheap reconditioned computer. However, I did it after it proved itself to be pretty rock solid (I think refurbs are always a gamble). I can’t find anything else on the market less than $1,200 that I’d rather own than this machine.

I also am not someone who routinely messes with computer hardware. I would consider myself something like an advanced novice. The case was easy enough to open and work inside and there are a ton of youtube videos showing you step-by-step instructions on how to upgrade components now.

One last caveat is that I’m a heavy user, but not a gamer. I’m on this computer all the time and really putting it through its multi-tasking paces…25 browser tabs open, 4 spreadsheets, 4 word documents, a few data analysis software programs, maybe a video stream casting it over to google chrome…that’s a pretty typical snapshot for me. I’ve been especially impressed with it’s ability to do high end data processing…I can load up WAMP and mySQL workbench and run it through complex queries on an 8 million row data set better than I would have ever expected.

Honestly, I’d buy another in a heartbeat if they had a Windows 7 option instead of Windows 8.

This has been my experience as well, more reliable. I heard that the big name companies perform more vigorous testing before releasing refurbs back into the wild. I’ve only bought refurb for more than 10 years.

What exactly is a “90 HP” warranty? I tried to look myself, but HP’s website is confusing. Can somebody guide me to the right information? I’m new to buying computers.