“Mr. Talbert (proprietor) is owner of Pritchard Hill Vineyards in Paso Robles, California, and recently acquired JanKris winery and vineyards in Paso Robles.”
I suspect this is a clearance of inventory from the old regime, and if that’s the case, that’s a big red flag, based on my experience with their 2004 vintage. Those wines were the worst I’ve ever had from wine woot, and I’ve had a lot of wine woot wine… 400 bottles or so.
on edit: I just noticed that these were bottled in the fall of 2008, so it’s possible that Mr. Talbert was in charge by then. But with three years between harvest and bottling for the 2005’s, and only 16 months in barrels, the question is, what was going on with the juice for the other 20 months or so?
I just checked my FedX tracking for my Ty order… picked up the 19th delivery scheduled for the 26th?!! I thought woot did their best to make sure wine didn’t sit over the weekend? I am really nervous, as it is going to be in the mid 90’s here!!! Someone please give me words of hope!!!
Fair enough. I was thoroughly unimpressed with the JanKris wines when I ordered them in February 2009. One of my two or three least favorite woots. I know you got a lot of negative feedback from those wines from the ‘regulars’.
My guess is that you would not do another deal with JanKris unless you thought what was on offer was substantially better. Not willing to pull the trigger on that guess yet, though.
On some of them, the numbers look better. Too much better almost, for Paso. Were any of them de-alc’ed?
I will be curious to see if there are any 'rats with experienced palates whose opinions I trust.
I have to say those are some interesting blends (I’m not even sure interesting is the right word - Zinfandel, CS, Merlot). I generally like my wine in the European style and the Zinfandel has me puzzled (my brain hurts).
Long time reader, occasional buyer, first time poster. First off thank you to all the frequent posters here I have learned a lot from you and, more importantly, my ensuing purchases.
I much prefer giving god reviews but this is the first time I have any experience with the wines listed. I have not tried these specific bottles but the previous ‘purple labels’, which did include similar blends, was one of my first purchases.
There was nothing remotely good to say about them. They were overly strong, unbalanced, harsh, and generally difficult to drink. Even for this nice price per bottle, and as another pointed out the fact woot would probably not go back to the maker after receiving poor comments on a previous selection, there is no way I would take another chance on this winemaker. In fact the price per bottle now also gives me pause as I have learned that, as in most things, an enjoyable wine normally does not come this cheap.
That said I have made many very enjoyable wine.woot purchases for around $10 a bottle so keep up the great job woot!
No. But, a purchaser’s reasonable expectation is that each will be not less than what we used to call in the trade sound commercial wine: that is, it would look, smell, and taste like wine (though not necessarily show characteristic flavors or aromas of particular grape varieties), be without significant flaws (excessive tannins, oak chips, imbalance, alcohol etc.) or defects (such various forms of bacterial or chemical contamination, excess sulfur dioxide, acetic acid), and not be spoiled from storage (oxidation, acetic acid).
Truth to tell, Gallo Hearty Burgundy, and Gallo’s Carlo Rossi lower quality label, is almost always sound commercial wine. Not terribly interesting, but sound and basically inoffensive. The Rossi sits on the borderline of acceptable sound commercial wine, but they couldn’t make and sell the millions of gallons they do if it weren’t sound.
My assessment of the initial JanKris offering that I purchased was that I would not rate one of them as sound commercial wine. The simply were not sound, and would not have been acceptable in the trade at any price point.
WineDavid’s palate and mine are not identical, but I’ve tasted with him enough to know he is pretty good, and getting better through vastly greater experience than he had 3-4 years ago when wine.woot started out. That’s why I would be surprised if he did a deal with JanKris unless these were at least sound commercial wine.