Lenovo Thinkstation Xeon Quad-Core Desktop
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Would this be a decent gaming rig? (I am guessing by adding a video card)
Add a decent vid card and a new power supply and yeah, this should be a pretty nice mid-to-upper end gaming rig.
Here’s a benchmark
Compared to a 4770K, it’s a bit lower spec, but c’mon, the 4770K is almost 1/2 the price of this system alone.
*edit #2 more research
After looking around a bit, I still think it’s a decent gaming rig, but there are some really good points brought up in this review. The reviewed model is a similar, perhaps newer model in this same P series line. tl;dr Upgradability might not be strong point for this model.
Given that this has 16GB of ram and a 256GB SSD out of the box it’s still quite tempting.
This would be VERY ideal for a home or small business app/file/web server etc…
Great. The only real difference between this and the i7 3770/4770 is the locked mulitplier and BLCK so you are not going to overclock this CPU.
Also the requirement for ECC RAM if you were thinking about upgrading.
These are rated for 24/7/365 operations so that is a plus. With that said there are quite a bit of small differences between a server CPU like his and the i7 alternatives…and without boring you you should be fine but if deciding between the two for a personal machine I would go i7.
But again, this will do just fine in terms of your question posed.
No wireless - could a wi-fi card be added easily ?
Looks like it supports two monitors… yes?
Absolutely. Either a USB wireless card or you could install an internal card
Per the features…
Multiple Monitor Display
Maximize productivity with independent display support for up to three independent monitors using Mosaic Mode with integrated Intel® graphics. Plus, connect to up to 16 independent monitors with 1.2 stream cloning mode.
A warning: If you plan on upgrading the power supply for this machine, do note that it uses a non-standard configuration. As mentioned in the Anandtech review, the power connection for the motherboard is split into 3 parts.
More information can be found on page 205 of the hardware maintenance manual (linked above)
(SPECULATION) I’m guessing the normal 24-pin connector is split into 3 sets. If you were to DIY an upgrade, you most likely need a multimeter and a molex pin removal tool to ‘re-pin’ an aftermarket PSU.
As phignuton said, upgradability is not the strongest point.
The PSU is probably the biggest issue for gaming, as it would definitely need replaced. Though if you don’t want to repin an aftermarket supply, you can probably find an appropriate Lenovo branded one.
Also, only one slot for a GPU. No SLI.
Someone mentioned ECC memory but you don’t have to use ECC. And if you put non-ECC in a system with existing ECC memory, it will just disable error checking.
We just got a couple Thinkstations last week at work and paid far more and I would much rather have this one. That’s a powerful CPU for a $700 system.
I guess it could be but it’s a workstation, so it wasn’t really designed for performance in games.
Anyone know if one could use a modular PSU as an upgrade?
Or perhaps using a 14 pin connector
Does this model have a standard Lenovo model designation similar to “30AH001TUS” or “30AG0044US” or is it a custom build?
I’m very familiar with the Lenovo P300 line. I searched through Lenovo Solution Center (current and a couple older ones) and can’t find this exact configuration associated with any model number.
The closest I could find is: 30AGS06W00
That’s the exact same computer, only with half the RAM and a K2000 video card added.
It also is priced at $1852 on CDW.
Woot reports that $699 is down from a list price of $1065, but I don’t know if that’s accurate. I work in IT consulting and recommend Lenovo for my customers. I can’t get any P300 with a 256 GB SSD for less than $1729 list price. See for yourself: http://lenovosc.com
(Click Hardware Families ⇒ ThinkStation ⇒ P300 and then filter by storage)
This is a SWEET deal, I’m in for 2.
Thanks for the catch on the similar model!
It is a sweet deal. The 1245 xeon, while almost a year ‘older’ than the 1246 used in some of the current models, is clocked only slightly slower and is reported online by some to be a better deal than the 1246, if it can be purchased at a lower price. A number of my clients have P300 xeons with 16 GB Ram and love them to death after suffering through lesser brands.
The other way you’re saving money here is that Lenovo typically puts a 3 year warranty on Topseller P300 models, not the 1 year Lenovo warranty quoted here. But the square trade option is there for the more squeamish.
For most business purposes, I’ve never had problems with the on-chip Intel graphics. Gamers will want more.
The 280 watt power supply is a bit of a question, but Lenovo puts it into a lot of their base P300s. I’d figure out an alternative ps if I were thinking about souping up this machine. But I’m not sure how much more you’d want to soup up a non-gaming machine: I’d build a gaming machine from scratch (just completed one with my son, and he spent almost this much money on the graphics card, alone).
I agree, this seems like a very good deal.
Good reference to the anandtech review above. Make sure to skim through all the comments following the review. I think many of the commenters are pointing out that people looking for a seriously advanced machine should really consider learning to build one themselves, or pay someone to do it for them, to get more desirable components and performance. It’s not as difficult as many would think.
BYO is not in the cards for many clients with whom I deal and I would not take on the responsibility (read, “extended headaches”) of guaranteeing a BYO. I’d leave that to the manufacturer. Many want a big ‘name’ to yell at when things go wrong.
And, absent a few hiccups, Lenovo service has been far superior than any other manufacturer’s with who we’ve dealt over the past 10 years for most of our small firm clients.
Always will be exceptions, but the North Carolina (consumer) and Atlanta, Georgia-based (Think brand) Lenovo support team has gone the extra mile many times for us. Think brand support has been the same IBM group which originally supported the Think line. That may be changing, but we’re still happy to depend on the Atlanta team.
And, no, I’m not a Lenovo or IBM employee. Just a relatively happy customer who does not like surprises.
Would this be a decent box for running a few virtual machines at a time? A couple of servers and a couple of workstations for practice labs? Would install VMware ESXi.