not a great deal. These are $399 brand new. if you’re gonna dump $400 on this, you may as well dump $600 on the Indigogo campaign featuring their new model: the kickscooter Max. I have an ES1. I like it, but it leaves me wanting more. Battery really only lasts about 6 miles on a full charge, and the top speed only 12-13mph on flat ground for me, a 200lbs male. 6 miles is not very far if you use it to commute to/from work, in which case you would need work to be <3 miles from you if you want to get there and back on a single charge. I ride it 4.75 miles into work, but they provide me with a secure place to charge it, which I’m sure is not very common.