PC Innards

Who’s upgrading, or perhaps building a spare machine around the house? Share and brag! We can take it.

Shoot for that money, I’d consider just having a spare drive on hand with Linux or something else to tinker with installed on it.
Then I could just swap out the drives.
Perhaps a “travel” hard drive.

Ram is 6 dollars cheaper with free shipping on Amazon here

Was 90% sold until I decided to look up reviews of the SSDs

Corsair Force 60GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233124

Corsair Performance 3 128GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233154

Corsair Force 120GB - Looked good until you start reading the reviews: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233125

Corsair Force 3 90GB - Only one with consistant good reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233204

You should always burn in your hard drive.

90% of these people that had issues and gave the bad reviews never did the burn in. Learn from their mistakes and prevent data loss.

Thanks for the info, I was tempted but decided to back out after reading the reviews.

Agree with you 100% as you should make sure the reliability of where to store your data.But again what good does a failed drive do to you if you still going to end with a failed drive, even if your data is saved. Still the hassle of requesting a replacement drive and start from square one is not worth it, specially on a peripheral that is not that reliable, service and manufacturing.

You seem to have missed an extremely important point. These are SSDs and NOT hard drives. Do not “burn in” an SSD. Sure you can test and fiddle with it for a while and make sure it performs ok and isn’t going to fail right away, but the idea of trying to overwrite every “block” on an SSD multiple times as some form of burn-in would be unwise, at best. The sheer number of things going on behind the scenes in an SSD is staggering (P/E cycle limitations, wear leveling, compression, write amplification, garbage collection, read disturb, write throttling, etc). The very last thing you want to do is go needlessly filling the thing up with random data before use, unless your intent is to make it fail as fast as possible.

I want to get an SSD for my desktop, anyone find any goo deals on a 3.5" mount for these?

So what are thoughts on refurbished storage? Hard drives have limited lifespan to begin with. Not sure how it applies to SSDs though.

There are cheap ones out there, but I’ve had the best luck with these:
http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-3-5-inch-2-5-Inch-Converter-SDP08B/dp/B008O510FW They seem to fluctuate between about $7 and $12, so not the cheapest, but they seem to be of good quality.

SSDs also have a limited lifespan. Only a certain amount of total data can be written to them before the probability of failure goes up dramatically. Luckily, that number is very high for modern SSDs (many many times the capacity of the drive) so in typical use they should last several years barring any major manufacturing defects, firmware bugs, being run too hot due to excessive heat from other system components, or any other quirks. There’s actually a forum thread on Xtreme Systems with people running endurance tests on different SSDs to see how long they can go with constant writing before they become unusable:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?271063-SSD-Write-Endurance-25nm-Vs-34nm

As I’ve said before, though, these previous-generation Corsair SSDs, most of which use older SATAII SandForce controllers, don’t have the best reputation to begin with, so offering such little warranty on refurbs doesn’t demonstrate a lot of confidence in the reliability of their products; almost like they’re just trying to dump them and be done with them.
The 30-day warranty kills the deal for me. They’d have to be really dirt cheap for me to buy them when they won’t even guarantee them for 90 days.

I’ve picked up several brand new 256GB Crucial M4 drives for around $149 shipped, and the 128GB M4s for around $79 shipped from Amazon and others, just by waiting for sales. The M4 drives are SATAIII, use a Marvell controller rather than SandForce, have a better reputation for reliability, and since they’re new and not refurbished, come with a 3 year warranty.
I’ve also had good luck with Intel SSDs, and many people seem to swear by Samsung as well. In contrast, there’s a lot of criticism of OCZ, and to some degree Corsair and some others.

The pirate map on the ATI video card product detail made my heart jumped a bit…but realized that Woot-off was over.

I am so conditioned, as well. I was in a recording studio today and there was a pirate map on a monitor, and my heart skipped a beat, too!

The RAM is cheaper on Newegg and comes with free shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104318

not such a great deal. Checked one of the SSD listed on manufacturers site and its only $5 more …
http://www.corsair.com/us/outlet-store/refurbished-ssds/force-series-f120b-solid-state-hard-drive-factory-reconditioned.html

And $7.93 shipping to my address.

Anyone have any experience with the ATI FirePro V5700 Graphics Card? PassMark grades are pretty middle of the road (755). It’s also only 512 MB of memory.