In for this. Thanks Rats for the reports.
I had my first Tempranillo earlier this year (a Chilean wine if I remember correctly) and what was supposed to be a glass of wine with dinner turned into drinking the bottle. I loved it and hope these are just as good!
edit: not that it really matters, but the Chilean bottle was a Malbec. The Tempranillo bottle was in fact a Spanish wine.
Pulled the trigger on my first wine Woot. In for 3!
I’m buying it simply because of the Zappa homage. Kudos.
I just bought three for three reasons
- That was the limit
- I have had several Truchards in the past and never been disappointed
- I grow Tempranillo, drink Tempranillo, love Tempranillo
What’s this have to do with anything? 2004 and 2005 are the ones being discussed here.
I’m rather new to the wine scene. I’m seeing a strong trend towards the reds here on Woot. I’m not familiar with Temparillos, but like what I’ve read. I’m in for 2. Either I like them and wish I went in for 3, or I don’t and I’ve got Christmas gifts!
I had the 2002 for $30 from a local wine shop. I don’t like Tempranillo but I liked this, but I thought at $30 it was a little overpriced. It’s a huge deal at this price.
Truchard is one of my favorite vintners, along with Cline, McManis, and Beaucannon, I’ll try pretty much anything they make. Truchard tends to have more subtlty and less fruit, it’s still new world but trends toward old world rather than fruit bombs. Their Syrah and pinot noir are my favorite examples of those varietals out of CA- well, Rochioli makes a better PN but it’s double the price and hard to find, so I guess it’s the best I know of under $50.
FWIW, a friend of mine (professional chef + in charge of the wine selections for the restaurant he works at) recommended Tempranillo as a good pairing for Thanksgiving turkey.
That, plus the labrattage reports, have me seriously tempted, despite being a tad over-budget thanks to Wednesday’s Wellington offering.
Oh, and hello y’all! I’m Ciaran. I’m new to the forum, but not to woot, and definitely new to wine. I look forward to gleaning as much knowledge I can from y’all, and forgive any silly questions I might have down the road.
Can’t argue with that logic killroy. Nor can I argue with my shopping, drinking, or gambling problems (because, yes, this is a gamble). I’m in for two!
Also… that’s me below. I made it Mom! I really made it!
Current numbers (updated each minute) First sucker: mseay Speed to first woot: 3m 20.523s Last wooter to woot: ericclem
No Connecticut! I was going to be in
Questions for the winery:
Forgive the machine-gunning nature of these, but I’m not very familiar with Tempranillo (but I do like to say the name) - is it pronounced Tim-pra-nee-yo?
Can it age or should it age? What is your recommended drinking window? For some reason I was thinking these should be consumed young.
How does this varietal compare to other popular California varietals (CS, PN, Merlot, Syrah)?
Truchard’s are well respected in the wine community with the vineyard having a high quality reputation among winemakers. I’ve always enjoyed wines from the Truchard Vneyard.
Wow, first of all, based on previous rat reports I see I am going to be different. While I enjoyed the final glass of wine more than the first, I did not find this variety to be my cup of tea. I like Syrahs, Pinot Niors and Cabs. I also do not tend to buy budget wines any more thanks to Woot my tastes have moved upwards. So, I did find myself a little intimidated on the tasting note side, I’ve not EVER done this before.
2005 Truchard Tempranillo
A complex nose of ripe plum, cassis, and black cherry; accented with notes of tea, tobacco, and cedar. The mouth is smooth and rich, layered with flavors of red currants, rhubarb, and sweet vanilla. Chalky tannins focus the palate and provide a delicate finish of red fruit, mineral and spice
After 10 minutes in glass (Riedel Vinum Bourdeaux):
Appearance: Very brilliant black cherry color, not very thick, with LOTS of legs. No bubbles or sediment.
Nose: Pomegranate and vanilla. Found this very hard to pull individual scents due to the high alcohol content, had a very astringent nose. Did not find it very pleasant.
Taste: Earth forward, very dry, crisp acidity, tannic, and HOT. Medium body and average complexity. Found the taste harsh, believe this due to alcohol content and need for air. Didn’t find it very balanced.
Overall: Only drank about 2 ounces which took me 20 minutes as I considered my notes. Was not digging this wine. Needs air or decant time.
Bottle now open for 45 minutes. Considered again, and found no real change from above notes. So, I took the remaining 2 ounces of my glass and ran it through my Vinturi and added another 2 ounces from open bottle through Vinturi.
This really did change things for the better.
Nose: No changes to above.
Taste: Only changes from above relate to acidity. Understand that I love acid, so those sensitive to acid keep that in mind as I might rate acidity lower than you. The acidity taste was mellowed by the vinturi, found it vibrant. Found it not a hot this time. I never really know if a wine I find hot on the first glass and less so on the second to be if the wine has changed with decant time or if my state of mind has changed. Either way that always happens for me, so I lean towards it being me not the wine. Balance has improved. Find it average.
Overall: Find it much better than the first glass.
Went and made dinner and finished second half of the above glass. When I had read the yesterday morning email indicating I was selected for a Lab Rat, I pulled a copy of beef tenderloin fillets. So I pan seared the fillets, and sautéed shitake (s-h-i-t-a-k-e) mushrooms with some green peas.
Bottle now open for 1 hours and 45 minutes. So, technically this is really only the second glass, as I’ve only drank about 6 oz. of the wine prior to this. It still needed the vinturi. This I found interesting. After almost two hours the wine was still too hot and astringent. The taste notes did not change from the second glass. It was only okay. Was better than average, budget wines.
Would I buy this wine? No Would it make a good Thanksgiving wine? Probably so for folks I know are not wine savy. Wish I could have made a better report.
From Sal’s audio, it doesn’t sound like he’s intentionally trying to mimic another varietal. However, a couple of reviews on the web suggest that maybe he did so unintentionally.
And of course, the alcohol ain’t shy.
Sal did mention that the vines are grown on a “volcanic ash and rocky knoll” (not sure if those are the exact words). I hope he comes here to answer some of these questions - the wine certainly sounds interesting.
Thanks for all the early rat reports!
Extensive grand tasting notes with the 05 Tempranillo buried amongst…fairly favorable review and some good plugs for the vineyard overall!
Corkd Review - another favorable description for the 05:-)
Thanks Rats for the input - I really do enjoy tempranillo, plus it’s one of the varietals that is still relatively undervalued (good stuff cheap is always a win;-). Probably in for one on this!
Whether one agrees or disagrees with your evaluation, you have clearly done exactly what one should expect from a labrat: you considered the wine very carefully in all of its aspects and described what you perceived over the evening tasting it. You included some (probably enough) information about your own preferences to put your comments in some perspective.
I found some aspects of the review curious, especially that it seemed particularly hot to you. I don’t like hot wines, but 14.1% is not particularly hot by current standards, and so that fact that you perceived the alcohol as prominent calls for more consideration of what’s going on. Are you particularly sensitive to alcohol levels? What are the wines you ordinarily drink and what are their alcohol levels? I note most red wines on woot are around or north of 14% these days. I also note that you mentioned pronounced astringency. From your review, I think you mean something other than tannin. I find a quality that combines a perception of dryness and astringency in the entry and middle palate typical in all but the fullest bodied Spanish wines - so your perception of something like this in a Tempranillo would make sense. I had wondered whether this is characteristic of the grape, or, like some Italian wines, characteristic of the style and terroir.
At any event, strong kudos for a thoughtful review - and I’m sorry you didn’t like it. At least you seem to understand why you didn’t like it.
I would find it very interesting to hear from the winery with respect to your review - not as a “refutation” or “defense” but as a thoughtful response to the things you perceived.
I’ve been to the Truchard Winery - it was by far my favorite stop in wine country. The wines here are all amazing and not overly expensive. I just happened to check in today to see what the deal was and I was thrilled to see this Tempranillo for sale. What a fantastic deal, especially for these vintages. Ready for it to be here soon!!
Thank you very much for your honesty! Flowery reports only because the bottle was free help no one. And thanks to the two other reporting rats as well.