Various HP Laptops

Are these refurb’s decent and at least somewhat reliable? Only need it for working, some basic software, nothing crazy. This price is just very appealing, as don’t need an i7, but need a 17"…

Can you give the model number for any of these laptops?

Specifically
http://computers.woot.com/offers/hp-envy-17-3-intel-i7-touch-laptop-36?ref=cnt_wp_0_2
http://computers.woot.com/offers/hp-envy-15-6-full-hd-i7-touch-laptop-1?ref=cnt_wp_8_32

Should be HP ENVY 15t-k000 and HP ENVY 15t-k000, respectively.
They should be listed in sale title and “Specs” listing.

Anyone know if the HP Pavilion 17T-F000 has space for two hard drives like some other HP 17" laptops do? Would be nice to add a SSD for the OS and keep the 1 TB for storage.