šŸ‘• From the Shirt Desk: Derby Announcement!

Ill show myself out now, you’re welcome world.

just here for the llama llama dramarama

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I’ll put you down for 34 shirts

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most people put me down for free

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This comment works unbelievably well with your avatar

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We literally bought bookshelves to store our shirts, since Hubs and I both have so many now.

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Unless something amazing has happened since I left Woot, trying to get any dev work on the site is like wrestling with a monkey made of jello. No clever pun there, I just put the process into words as best I can.

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What flavor of jello?

Well they did finally modernize the forums to something that wasn’t a beta version patched with duct tape, so there’s some hope.

Sometimes duct tape works.

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so those harps were, like, a decade ago. was there a recent incident that precipitated this change in how the derby winners are determined?

presumably woot wasn’t satisfied with the way the earlier version of editorial selection played out. what is different this time?

IMHO, the low vote numbers have got to play a significant part in this change. A person with a large fan following could come in and get some wins without any translating into sales.
Also, you don’t need to have purchased to vote…
Also, amazon.com account holders have access to vote…
You would think that opening this all up would make for higher vote totals… but that does not seem to be the case.

Behind the scenes I wonder if there is some fishy business or at least some raised eyebrows with some voting that is making them take this action…

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A person with a large fan following could come in and get some wins without any translating into sales.

hasn’t this been true for several years now?

Also, you don’t need to have purchased to vote

whaaaaaaaaat. when did this happen? seems like a very low bar for voterage abuse now.

You would think that opening this all up would make for higher vote totals… but that does not seem to be the case.

obviously I am not privy to the data that woot has. but I wonder if woot has been applying band-aids when there mite be an underlying issue. is shirt.woot as interesting to the shirt-buying public as before? are vote totals commensurate with site traffic? peepuls have been arguing about shirt.woot’s health for years, but without data it’s difficult to get anywhere. has anything changed?

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Yeah, but when you pair it with the voting without buying (or just an amazon account), it COULD be a multiplier.

I’m not really the data guy here. I’m sure @Narfcake could speak to all this better.

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I’ve stopped counting for years now, so I don’t have any more recent numbers. I do know that shirt.woot traffic was mostly been reliant on the main woot traffic and most likely still is.

The ā€œtriple whammyā€ that started 7 years ago (blanks + volume artist + site shift), along with the QC issues and a lot more retail competition, are all factors that made shirt.woot what it is nowadays.

I’m late to this conversation, but I believe the default order used to be by date. So actually the later entries were on top and got noticed… I’m sure that gave them much more of a chance.

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I’m with you on this! It was disheartening to consistently see certain artists with a lively social presence - wonderful artists from whom I learned a lot - have so many votes within the hour of a derby posting. While it was a thrill to get into the first or second ā€œrowā€ under the fog…it still meant never seeing a shirt get printed. I love the idea of a ā€œnever printed derby!ā€

so I stopped frequenting the forums a while back … how do I find the sales quantities for an individual shirt? they used to post them in the first post of each shirt’s discussion thread, but imma having trouble even navigating to discussion threads for specific shirts, and not seeing much sales info posted anywhere.

You don’t. That option disappeared when the new forums launched.