GLX Motocross Helmets

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[QUOTE=mkiisupraman18, post:16, topic:385841]

Their 4wheelers go 8-10mph… I don’t think they need $400 Icon Variants.
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No, they probably don’t NEED a $400 Icon (and yes, I can tell you ride too; I’ve got a $600 Arai), but if you think a 10mph crash is nothing, then you haven’t crashed enough to learn otherwise. And a child’s head is MORE susceptible to concussions or worse than an adults . . . or so the research seems to show.

You can obviously afford a better helmet for your children, yet you want to cheap out on an essential piece of safety gear? I don’t get that logic.

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Add me to the folks wondering why this isn’t on sport.woot … ?

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I’ll just turn their triples into doubles and call it good enough.

They only ride when they aren’t on their trampoline anyway…

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I wouldn’t say that. I’d bet some bike helmets offer more protection than these. DOT approved isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. You want something to be SNELL approved. That’s where the protection is. A beanie can protect your head too!

In all seriousness, the speed at which your ‘youngins’ are riding their bikes/quads is irrelevant. All that matters is the speed at which their head hits the ground. From physics class we know everything falls at 9.81 m/s^2. Regardless of their speed parallel to the ground, the perpendicular speed is pretty much always the same in reference to the damage done. I’ve witnessed first hand from turning a corner at less than 3-4 mph on an MX track, my dad fell over and got a concussion. He was in the hospital for a week and temporarily lost his memory. I could have crawled faster than he was going. It all was determined by the angle/way he hit the ground. Speed was irrelevant.

On a side note, helmets are only good for ONE, count it, ONE, good crash. After that, it’s garbage and time for a new one. The material they are made out of are not designed to be hammered multiple times with the ground. That goes for the $600 Arai’s, much less these things.

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[QUOTE=garrettwheat, post:24, topic:385841]
I wouldn’t say that. I’d bet some bike helmets offer more protection than these. DOT approved isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. You want something to be SNELL approved. That’s where the protection is. A beanie can protect your head too!

In all seriousness, the speed at which your ‘youngins’ are riding their bikes/quads is irrelevant. All that matters is the speed at which their head hits the ground. From physics class we know everything falls at 9.81 m/s^2. Regardless of their speed parallel to the ground, the perpendicular speed is pretty much always the same in reference to the damage done. I’ve witnessed first hand from turning a corner at less than 3-4 mph on an MX track, my dad fell over and got a concussion. He was in the hospital for a week and temporarily lost his memory. I could have crawled faster than he was going. It all was determined by the angle/way he hit the ground. Speed was irrelevant.

On a side note, helmets are only good for ONE, count it, ONE, good crash. After that, it’s garbage and time for a new one. The material they are made out of are not designed to be hammered multiple times with the ground. That goes for the $600 Arai’s, much less these things.
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An article on these sorts of helmets. Better than nothing? Probably not… FairWarning Web Archives, 2010-2021 | University of Illinois Archives

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[QUOTE=El Marko, post:12, topic:385841]
Sorry, but I actually race mx and these are non-brand cheapo helmets that aren’t worth the asking price. You will not be able to find parts (like the visor, which will break on the first crash) and even if these were good helmets, you should ALWAYS try helmets on in an actual store. Correct fit is essential and there’s more to it that guessing what your head size is.

Sorry Woot, but these shouldn’t even be for sale here. Helmets are an important safety item for off-road riding (ATV, motorcycle or mountain bike) and fit, comfort, quality and meeting standards is important. The saying is: “If you have a $10 head, buy a $10 (or $35) helmet.”

There are good, readily-available quality helmets in the $60 to $99 range. These aren’t.

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+1

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[QUOTE=El Marko, post:12, topic:385841]
Sorry, but I actually race mx and these are non-brand cheapo helmets that aren’t worth the asking price. You will not be able to find parts (like the visor, which will break on the first crash) and even if these were good helmets, you should ALWAYS try helmets on in an actual store. Correct fit is essential and there’s more to it that guessing what your head size is.

Sorry Woot, but these shouldn’t even be for sale here. Helmets are an important safety item for off-road riding (ATV, motorcycle or mountain bike) and fit, comfort, quality and meeting standards is important. The saying is: “If you have a $10 head, buy a $10 (or $35) helmet.”

There are good, readily-available quality helmets in the $60 to $99 range. These aren’t.

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So what you’re saying is that you’ve got a $60 to $99 head? :slight_smile:

I agree with trying helmets on, they do vary quite a bit from brand to brand, and even models within brands. I must have a head shaped like a shark fin, as some Shoei’s crush my forehead, but have too much slop from side to side.

However, studies have shown that ANY helmet is far better than no helmet. Now you usually do get better material quality and fit and finish and features on more expensive helmets.

And any of these are far more protection than a typical bicycle helmet. A friend came off her bicycle (large pot hole in the road, hidden in shadows) and did the classic faceplant, resulting in a lot of work for dental and plastic surgeons. She observed that if she’d been riding her motorcycle, she’d have had her full-face helmet on, and been spared a lot of misery.

I guess that’s a long winded way of saying in for two for spares/loaners.

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[QUOTE=twomonkeysayoyo, post:25, topic:385841]
An article on these sorts of helmets. Better than nothing? Probably not… FairWarning Web Archives, 2010-2021 | University of Illinois Archives
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Thanks for the article, good reading. The David Thom quoted in the article was the force behind a landmark study on helmet safety some years back. Good to see he’s still involved.

However, the “novelty” helmets being condemned in the article are NON-DOT helmets with no pretense of being safety equipment. Like these: Iron Horse Helmets | Novelty Helmets Pretty despicable marketing, if you read anything on the site. Basically “buy our useless crap because you’ll look really cool posing on your Barely-Riddenson, and you can stick it to man too”.

And frankly I’m not really getting the “my head is worth $60, not $30” argument. :slight_smile:

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Just about any helmet can get a DOT approval - what you should be looking for is a SNELL seal (I believe SA2010 is the latest), if you really want protection.

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DOT vs Snell vs ECE. Take your pick.

The best helmet is the one that fits your head. I have bought online but not before trying the helmet on somewhere first. I have helmets ranging from $99 to $650 with multiple combinations of ratings.

Every crash is different and for each one of them a different certification level is better.

There is plenty of research comparing the different ratings and what types of crashes they perform better in.

To say buy a $x helmet for a $x dollar head is pretty generic.

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[QUOTE=blaineg, post:27, topic:385841]
However, studies have shown that ANY helmet is far better than no helmet.
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Given the discussion on “novelty helmets” let me amend my opinion to state “any DOT approved helmet is better than nothing”.

The original Dave Thom study found that while laminated helmets (fiberglas, etc.) did provide more protection due to the delamination of the layers absorbing impact, the difference between cheap injection molded polycarbonate and no helmet was FAR greater than the difference between laminate & molded construction.

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Reckin a lot a folks are correct in the “you get what you pay for” type commits but it does come down to having a shell with some impact absorbing foam around your noggin is better than not. For someone just needing a brainbucket for riding a friends spare dirt bike when you go to visit or the like, this would work just fine. Yea, you might getting a commit like “Dude! you hit so hard it cracked your helmet!” but much better than “Dude! your brains are oozing out! I’ll call 911”. Picking up one to have so I won’t look as goofy as I do wearing one of my nice street helmets on a dirtbike… Just hope it fits right.

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Well, there are arguments to be made against this - SNELL aims for protection against very high impacts, which you would think might be safer. The helmet has to be made so much stiffer to meet this, however, that at lower speeds less force is absorbed. And most impacts seem to be at lower speeds. Personally, for kids at relatively low speeds on dirt bikes, I’d stick with DOT, and even for myself on the street, I’m leaning away from SNELL toward ECE. There’s nothing clear cut about most of this stuff, and the actual research is pretty thin, so you end up having to just pick something. As kenr74 pointed out, every crash is different and for each one of them a different certification level is better.

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[QUOTE=El Marko, post:12, topic:385841]
Sorry, but I actually race mx and these are non-brand cheapo helmets that aren’t worth the asking price. You will not be able to find parts (like the visor, which will break on the first crash) and even if these were good helmets, you should ALWAYS try helmets on in an actual store. Correct fit is essential and there’s more to it that guessing what your head size is.

Sorry Woot, but these shouldn’t even be for sale here. Helmets are an important safety item for off-road riding (ATV, motorcycle or mountain bike) and fit, comfort, quality and meeting standards is important. The saying is: “If you have a $10 head, buy a $10 (or $35) helmet.”

There are good, readily-available quality helmets in the $60 to $99 range. These aren’t.

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Agree, your noggin - and that of your child’s - is worth the expense of a decent helmet. Look into helmets with MIPS technology.

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I know nothing at all about these helmets or any other helmets in fact. I would like to ask why these are not in Sport.Woot!? Is it because Sport.Woot! was full so you brought them here to feature them? Not Cool Woot! now I have to go to Sport.Woot to see if you hid any tools over there.

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If you don’t ride much, you should probably have a much better helmet seeing as how you’re more likely to have a spill.