Twisted Root Design Top Quilt or Under Quilt

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Twisted Root Design Top Quilt or Under Quilt
Price: $49.99
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[j4john10]

Can these be used as a bottom quilt for other brands of hammocks?

[Sawadee]

@j4john10

Can these be used as a bottom quilt for other brands of hammocks?

Having purchased several under quilts I would say yes. Only concern is length. But there would have to be a large difference to be a problem. Should be no concern

[rawille]

@j4john10

Can these be used as a bottom quilt for other brands of hammocks?

I have used the Twisted Root under-quilt with the Yukon Hammock that Woot often sells, and it worked great.

[jdezur]

The pics make these things look pretty thin. Can someone describe how warm these are compared to others on the market? Good for winter camping or just cool summer nights like the description (45-50f) says?

[seanmckinney82]

@jdezur

The pics make these things look pretty thin. Can someone describe how warm these are compared to others on the market? Good for winter camping or just cool summer nights like the description (45-50f) says?

As a rule of thumb with any outdoor sleep products, the temperatue rating given is a temperature you do not want to be in if that is the only thing to keep you warm. IE: 20 degree bags in 22 degree weather, you will be cold. For 20 degree weather, I bring my 0 degree bag and wear thermals.

[charmion]

So what’s the difference between a top quilt and a sleeping bag? The description sounds like a sleeping bag.

[mcphatty84]

@charmion

So what’s the difference between a top quilt and a sleeping bag? The description sounds like a sleeping bag.

Sleeping bags won’t keep you warm enough in a hammock, because you compress all of the insulation beneath you. An underquilt allows you to insulate without crushing the insulating layer.

[gillisr]

Hammocks became all the rage in my son’s boy scout troop over the past 3 or 4 years. They enjoy assembling a “hammock town” whenever conditions allow. Last spring my son took an underquilt (different brand, but similar, also purchased from Woot) on the spring campout. It got quite chilly (upper 30’s). He was comfy, the others were jealous. Recommended!

[Speedogomer]

@charmion

So what’s the difference between a top quilt and a sleeping bag? The description sounds like a sleeping bag.

A top quilt is kind if like a sleeping bag without a back. It lays on top of you like a blanket, but has an enclosed area for your feet.

In a hammock, laying on a sleeping bag compresses the insulation below you, and reduces it’s effectiveness significantly. This is why top quilts are popular. They are lighter than a sleeping bag. Since the part of the sleeping bag you lay on top of is pretty useless in a hammock anyways, a top quilt just removes this part.

You absolutely need insulation under you when using a top quilt, either in a hammock or on the ground. An underquilt or sleeping pad provides insulation under you.

[aageek]

@gillisr

Hammocks became all the rage in my son’s boy scout troop over the past 3 or 4 years. They enjoy assembling a “hammock town” whenever conditions allow. Last spring my son took an underquilt (different brand, but similar, also purchased from Woot) on the spring campout. It got quite chilly (upper 30’s). He was comfy, the others were jealous. Recommended!

^^^Exactly this. If you’re hammocking in the cooler weather, just a sleeping bag often will leave you cold. You absolutely want a layer underneath the hammock.

I have both the Yukon Outfitters and TRD hammock that have been on Woot, and they are EXACTLY the same other than the logo on the bag. The Yukon was the original, and it got hijacked by my son for scout trips for hammock city, and I had to get another. For being a belly sleeper, it’s amazing how much I love that damn hammock on camping trips. With the mosquito-netted hammock, the quilt and the rain fly, and an appropriate bag, you’re ready for nearly anything.

[Cotb]

I’m not sure I follow the logic used here against sleeping bags. The underside will compress regardless of where you spend the night. I very much understand the need to insulate your butt while in a hammock at night, but still don’t see how an underquilt differs from an unzipped sleeping bag.

Help a brother out?

[gillisr]

@Cotb

I’m not sure I follow the logic used here against sleeping bags. The underside will compress regardless of where you spend the night. I very much understand the need to insulate your butt while in a hammock at night, but still don’t see how an underquilt differs from an unzipped sleeping bag.

Help a brother out?

The underquilt attaches to the underside of the hammock, not the side you lie on. When attached properly it follows the contours of the outside of the hammock, not the inside. So, you do not lie on top of it. you lie on the hammock, and the underquilt snuggles up against the bottom of the hammock. The underquilt does not get compressed by your weight, thus maintaining its loft and insulation.

[tc1uscg]

@rawille

I have used the Twisted Root under-quilt with the Yukon Hammock that Woot often sells, and it worked great.

I have the under quilt too. But instead of dropping 50 bucks for the top quilt, I spend 25 bucks on a Snugpack jungle blanket. Has a colder rating and compresses down way more. It’s also VERY water resistant, almost water proof.

[tc1uscg]

@gillisr

The underquilt attaches to the underside of the hammock. When attached properly it follows the contours of the outside of the hammock, not the inside. So, you do not lie on top of it. you lie on the hammock, and the underquilt snuggles up against the bottom of the hammock. The underquilt does not get compressed by your weight, thus maintaining its loft and insulation.

To add to that, the GOAL of the under quilt is to leave a 1 or 2 inch layer of “air” between your butt and the blanket allowing the air to warm, which keeps you warmer and blocks the wind better, again, helping you stay warmer. The sides, not so much as the area touching the hammock and quilt are less controllable. Just thought I’d toss that in.

[love2myfriends]

@Cotb

I’m not sure I follow the logic used here against sleeping bags. The underside will compress regardless of where you spend the night. I very much understand the need to insulate your butt while in a hammock at night, but still don’t see how an underquilt differs from an unzipped sleeping bag.

Help a brother out?

Took me a minute to fully understand as well. But I think what they’re saying is that the underquilt goes under the hammock, not under you.
If you used sleeping bag, it’d go all around you within the hammock, so then the bag under you squished between hammock and you is deemed “insufficient”. However, if you wrap this underquilt under the hammock, then all your weight is on the hammock, not the quilt, so it still insulates you as it should.
Then you throw blanket/top quilt/open sleeping bag over yourself.

Make sense?

[Cotb]

@love2myfriends

Took me a minute to fully understand as well. But I think what they’re saying is that the underquilt goes under the hammock, not under you.
If you used sleeping bag, it’d go all around you within the hammock, so then the bag under you squished between hammock and you is deemed “insufficient”. However, if you wrap this underquilt under the hammock, then all your weight is on the hammock, not the quilt, so it still insulates you as it should.
Then you throw blanket/top quilt/open sleeping bag over yourself.

Make sense?

It does, thank you (and tc1uscg and gillisr, above). I did not realize that the quilt was an outie and not an innie. While I still would argue that a sleeping bag works just fine, I appreciate the difference as practically applied.

[Speedogomer]

@Cotb

It does, thank you (and tc1uscg and gillisr, above). I did not realize that the quilt was an outie and not an innie. While I still would argue that a sleeping bag works just fine, I appreciate the difference as practically applied.

A sleeping bag can work, as long as you have something else below you, a pad or underquilt.

Many new hammock campers still use a sleeping bag. When I started I used a mummy bag unzipped and laid on top of me.

The advantage of a top quilt over a sleeping bag unzipped is the top quilt is generally lighter and will pack smaller than a sleeping bag. Big benefits if you are backpacking.

[gillisr]

@Speedogomer

A sleeping bag can work, as long as you have something else below you, a pad or underquilt.

Many new hammock campers still use a sleeping bag. When I started I used a mummy bag unzipped and laid on top of me.

The advantage of a top quilt over a sleeping bag unzipped is the top quilt is generally lighter and will pack smaller than a sleeping bag. Big benefits if you are backpacking.

As reported to me by my boy scout son and his buddies: when you put a sleeping pad inside the hammock, it gets less hammock-y. I think what they mean is that a sleeping pad interferes with the form-fitting comfort that is one of the reasons people prefer hammocks. As a rule, all the scouts use sleeping bags in their hammocks. My son’s underquilt just made things more comfortable as the temperature dropped.