The text says "Optical Drive: DVDRW’', but the pic clearly shows that there isn’t one. So which is it?!?!?!
It also list it twice in the specs, so I’m leaning on it does come with a DVDRW.
I don’t work here and I’m just your average knucklehead.
Ha. Thanks. Thing is, about a month ago I bought the same desktop with much more RAM and capacity WITH a pic and with the Optical Drive: DVDRW in the specs. Alas, no Optical Drive: DVDRW (and only a lousy wi-fi dongle). Sooooo…a fellow knucklehead
Typically, the stock pics can’t be trusted due to different possible configurations. The item you receive should match what is listed in the specs. If not, contact woot support.
This computer has a useful life of 19 months, so not a good deal for most people
Windows 10 reaches its end-of-life and stops getting security updates in OCTOBER 2025. We are universally told to not run an operating system without security patches. This computer will NOT update to Windows 11 without special workarounds. (see below)
This may be a fine little computer but you should be aware Microsoft’s Windows 11 installer checks for the presence of a TPM v2.0 compatible chip, a minimum amount of RAM (4 GB) and a processor chip from Microsoft’s approved list (in the Intel world, that means 8th generation or newer. You can Google for a list. AMD chips are more mixed-up and confusing.) The i5-7600 is NOT on the approved list.
This computer will not install and run Windows 11 because it has a 7th generation Intel i-series processor and Microsoft’s Windows 11 installer will reject the install and stop, telling you that this computer is not compatible/supported.
There is nothing wrong with this computer. It almost certainly would run Windows 11 just fine. (I have had only a couple VERY old computers that actually just couldn’t run it.)
And YES, this would make an EXCELLENT Linux machine at no extra cost to the purchaser.
For the technically inclined there are workarounds to get Windows 11 installed on “unsupported hardware” and they still work. I have installed Windows 11 on some surprisingly ancient computers. There is no real good reason to limit Windows 11 to 8th gen Intel processors and newer (and similar newer AMD processors). However, I have been doing tech support for over 20 years and the methods to install Windows 11 on older computers (there are several) are beyond the skills of most users. AND, Microsoft withholds the right to stop security updates on these non-conforming computers at any time. AND, the annual update refuses to install unless you repeat the work-around. Not a good solution for most people.
For most people, this computer has a proper life-span of 19 months. In October 2025 they will get their last security updates. So, this computer is supposed to go to a landfill next year. Life-expectency is less that 20 months. That’s a bad deal.
So, DON"T BUY THIS COMPUTER. For most people it would be a waste of money.
Now I really want to know what the methods to install Win 11 on older computers are!!
"There is no real good reason to limit Windows 11 to 8th gen Intel processors " If you are a gambler, MS could possibly expand the combability list in the future. I think i7-7800X is on the list of Win11 CPUs, so I can imagine i7-7600 being first on an expanded list.
@tenorsax this offer does include DVDRW but does not include Wi-Fi. The features and specs are correct and the images are stock photos, not exact photos of what will be received.
Hope this answers your questions.
Thanks,
Woot Staff
W11 debut was in 2021. If MS was going to expand native compatibility on an older platform, they would have done so already. Instead, compatibility has only been reduced as support for a number of Xeon processors have since been removed.
So no, do NOT expect native support to be extended onto even older platforms in the future. Can it run? Yes – I’ve done so myself on multiple computers (and then reverted to something else afterwards). Just Google “W11 unsupported CPU” – there are plenty of tutorials. You will be on your own, however.
(Note that I am not staff. I just volunteer to help out on the forums.)
The Dell manual suggests that the CPU can be upgraded. pg 38 shows the CPU is clamped in.
Nominally, compatible Intel processors start with the 8th Gen i-series. You are right, there are a couple exceptions, like the i7-7800x. Alas, no 7th gen i5 chips are on the list. The i5-7600 is not listed.
Here’s the list-
Windows 11 has been out over a year now. Microsoft has refused to budge on expanding the “compatible hardware”. I have read reports that say this pointless requirement will send over 400,000,000 computers to the landfills.
If you intend on staying with Windows, then you are right about the useful life. This machine should be compatible with a few different Linux distros, though. We have run these Optiplex boxes at work for several years (many older and newer than this) running Fedora, CentOS, and RHEL (at least 8). Performing the install may take some effort, but it’s definitely possible.
Still limited to 6th and 7th gen only, however.
Here’s the thing: 6th through 9th gen all used LGA1151. However, they are NOT compatible throughout. 6th and 7th are compatible with one another, 8th and 9th are compatible with one another. 7th and 8th are NOT compatible with one another.
Source:
Computer Work
(Note that I am not staff. I just volunteer to help out on the forums.)
Short answer, get a USB drive, a copy of Rufus, and download the Windows 11 ISO. Rufus will make the couple changes you need to the ISO as it applies it to the thumb drive.
For the long answer, Google Rufus Windows 11.
I would of sent that back. Not having the right specs on the item for sale or if I they (not just here) can’t list the FULL specs on the item they are selling and I have to do a google search, I move on and buy it else where
@ aquade1
Well, the specs are incorrect. The desktop I got has i5-6500 CPU, SATA SSD and wifi dongle.
The specs claim i5-7600, NVMe SSD and no wifi.
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Got mine too. Same as @FiL; slower processor (i5-6500), inferior HD (std SSD), crappy WiFi dongle (not sure it was supposed to have WiFi). In addition, it had 4-8-4 mem chips which forced it into single channel mode, and had no optical drive. Waste of time. If they can deliver what they advertised, I’m interested. Otherwise, this is not even close to what I was sold and it’s going back.
Desktop I received, doesn’t match spec.
No optical drive/DVDRW,
Core i5-6500 processor (Not i5-7600 as spec says).
KingFast SATA Standard SSD (Not M.2 NVMe SSD as spec says).
Disappointed with Woot!
Returning.