[QUOTE=Tarnishedblade, post:165, topic:227693]
Things to remember
most states now require you to have networked smoke alarms. This means if one trips they all go off. Also they now if being installed have to have both types of sensors both the infrared and ionization sensors.
These maybe be a good deal but check building laws and rules before buying and installing any smoke alarm.
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Interconnected smoke alarm laws only apply to NEW construction. You can buy and install any kind of alarm in existing construction. However, you should buy (for safety reasons) wireless interconnected alarms.
[QUOTE=kilomag2, post:160, topic:227693]
You cant take the battery out, but there is a series of light off/on sequences that you can perform to temporarily disable the device for about 15 minutes. And a series of off/on’s for testing the device as well.
There are no led indicators on the device to acknowledge a full charge or no charge, or dead battery for that matter.
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I can imagine it now, the first time my 2 year old discovers his random light switching actually does something. Lets play “see how many times I can get this thing to screech”.
As many people have already pointed out, these have very limited use due to location parameters. The idea is to protect your living space , but these have no place in a living area. A garage? Well, I do a lot of work in the garage and smoke is not an unusual thing to have floating around in the air. Basement? If you’re like me I cut a lot of wood in the basement and very often my blades get dull and I’ll “burn” thru that last cut and smoke the area. Or soldering may cause a lot of smoke on occasion.
They look like a cool idea but in about a years time they will cluttering garage sale tables all over the place!
[QUOTE=wootasourous, post:173, topic:227693]
So will this be set off by carbon monoxide? Or is it just a regular smoke alarm?
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Does it say carbon monoxide detector in any of the information listed? Does it say carbon monoxide in any of the FAQs or on any of the associated links?
Since NONE of the documentation talks about carbon monoxide detection, I’ll go out on a limb and say that these don’t detect carbon monoxide. But why don’t you email or call the manufacturer just to be sure. You never know, they may have forgotten to list it.
If these offered carbon monoxide protection, the literature would say so.
[QUOTE=racraft, post:185, topic:227693]
Does it say carbon monoxide detector in any of the information listed? Does it say carbon monoxide in any of the FAQs or on any of the associated links?
Since NONE of the documentation talks about carbon monoxide detection, I’ll go out on a limb and say that these don’t detect carbon monoxide. But why don’t you email or call the manufacturer just to be sure. You never know, they may have forgotten to list it.
If these offered carbon monoxide protection, the literature would say so.
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I was thinking this would be good for the basement, but the light socket it is in needs to be turned on 2 hours per week according to Dupont http://www2.dupont.com/Home_Safety/en_US/applications/faqs/faqs_pages/faqs_sc101.html
I’m not going to add another chore to make sure I do this. And if you forget…everyone dies??
For the rest of the house, I have light fixtures that this wouldn’t fit into.
This wasn’t a smart idea by Dupont to sell. The thought is neat, but in reality, what are they trying to replace? I change the batteries in my current smoke alarms twice a year. This is actually less convenient. I don’t see how Dupont was going to steal any market share on this product.
…As for one advantage found in their manufacturer’s web page. BTW not rec’d for w/ CFLs, comp flor. light bulbs!
My garage/basement/laundry area is kept at a low temperature-- will the DuPont™ Self-Charging Smoke Alarm still work?
The DuPont™ Self-Charging Smoke Alarm has UL certification for use in areas where temperature may regularly drop to 5°F unlike most smoke alarms which are normally tested and are specified to work at temperatures above 40°F.
[QUOTE=robio, post:159, topic:227693]
FYI from the manual:
Your DuPont TM Smoke Alarm PS-131 is only intended for use with conventional light bulbs up to a maximum rating of 60 watts, and low energy type bulbs with a similar rating.
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[QUOTE=quartermane, post:117, topic:227693]
looking at the picture the contacts for the screw in bulb are not continuous. I would guess it can only charge if the current flows through the bulb. A burned out bulb would interrupt the charging circuit. If the battery were charged, it should function but not recharge until the burned out bulb was replaced
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No, that would only be the case if it was wired in series. And if it was wired in series, the bulb would burn at half brightness, as it would be operating on 60 volts (1/2 of 120 volts). These would have to be wired in parallel, therefore, even with the bulb burned out, the unit would charge if the switch was on.
How old are these already? Can anyone from Woot! tell us the manufacture date on the packages? The warranty is for 10 yr and 6 mo from date of manufacture. If these are 6 or 7 years old, for example, it would not be worth getting.
[QUOTE=langbdang, post:189, topic:227693]
No, that would only be the case if it was wired in series. And if it was wired in series, the bulb would burn at half brightness, as it would be operating on 60 volts (1/2 of 120 volts). These would have to be wired in parallel, therefore, even with the bulb burned out, the unit would charge if the switch was on.
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Right church, wrong pew.
Wired in series they would each get voltage based on their electrical resistance. The smoke detector and the light bulb do not have the same electrical requirements, therefor they would not get the same voltage if wired in series. One would get a higher voltage, the other a lower voltage.
Bonus questions:
Which would see a higher voltage voltage? What would happen with a lower wattage bulb?
Boy; what a lot of whining “I can’t use this Woot!” C’mon people! If you could use 'em all, you’d be broke!
Seriously, though, these are perfect for a laundry room, utility room, or attached (or drive-under) garage. When I lived in an apartment, I had a storage closet off the balcony. Now, I have a laundry/utility room with a Carbon Monoxide (but not smoke) detector; I think I’m inspired now to get one of these at Big Lots.
And, seriously, make sure ANY smoke detector is very close to the ceiling, or it may not go off until you’re already dead. And that would be bad.
[QUOTE=racraft, post:185, topic:227693]
Does it say carbon monoxide detector in any of the information listed? Does it say carbon monoxide in any of the FAQs or on any of the associated links?
Since NONE of the documentation talks about carbon monoxide detection, I’ll go out on a limb and say that these don’t detect carbon monoxide. But why don’t you email or call the manufacturer just to be sure. You never know, they may have forgotten to list it.
If these offered carbon monoxide protection, the literature would say so.
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Wow…some of you people provide terrible community support. Simple answer, NO. No need to right a paragraph to demean someone.
10 year limited warranty
Unique AngelEye™ technology featuring an internal self-charging power pack
The only smoke alarm approved for use in garages where temperatures may fall to 5
degrees Fahrenheit.
The only smoke alarm approved for use in garages where temperatures may fall to 5 degrees Fahrenheit.
Audible warning is given when the power pack charge is low. Just turn on the light to re-charge the battery pack-it feeds off your home’s electricity. When fully charged, the DuPont™ Self-Charging Smoke Alarm is designed to operate for 30 days without additional electrical power.
Dimensions: 3"H x 5"L x 3"W
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So how do they work when the fire burns the wiring leading to your home before it gets inside the home?
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Um, they have a rechargeable battery that charges when the light is turned on. Reading is super!
I looked on Duponts site… there is no fire marshal approval or other certications… for very good reasons.
I have never seen a ceiling light mounted in the correct locations recommended for smoke detectors. Enclosed lights would reduce sensitivity and the sound of the alert.
[QUOTE=gbinman, post:197, topic:227693]
Don’t waste your money on this junk.
I looked on Duponts site… there is no fire marshal approval or other certications… for very good reasons.
I have never seen a ceiling light mounted in the correct locations recommended for smoke detectors. Enclosed lights would reduce sensitivity and the sound of the alert.
Shame on Woot for selling this junk.
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IT SAYS DONT MOUNT IN ENCLOSED LIGHTS!!! LEARN TO READ!
I wasn’t going to get these because I don’t think they will fit in my recessed ceiling lights. But for the bare-bulb garage lights, why not? Garage fires are common, and for $15 why not up my chances of early detection?