HP 17.3" HD+ Touchscreen 12th Gen i5 Laptop

HP 17.3" HD+ Touchscreen 12th Gen i5 Laptop

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1600x900 in a 17 in laptop in 2023 is a joke and should be a crime

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1600x900 in anything is a joke these days, except maybe a budget phone.

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Is this a gamer’s point of view?
A photo editor’s point of view?
A video editor’s point of view?
Or an office-worker’s point of view?

A bit more context would be really helpful. Thanks!

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Actually, from any point of view.
It is pretty low rez by today’s standards. You will not be able to fit too many (or even 2) windows on the screen at the same time to do any meaningful work. And at 17", everything will look huge and pixelated (blockiness).

In fact, even FullHD (1920x1080) is considered mediocre nowadays.
A decent rez is QuadHD (2560x1440) which is a good compromise between cost and function.
Even better will be 4K UltraHD (3840 Ɨ 2160) but costs more, of course.
Don’t think 8K UltraHD (Too Many Pixels x Even More Pixels) is available on laptops yet, even if it is, the price will be astronomical.
But all that doesn’t really matter, because most people hook up to a larger monitor for work or play anyways.

But I wouldn’t use this as a ā€œplayā€ machine, as the onboard graphics is mediocre as well.

The only thing that can justify that price for such a low rez screen is the fact that it is a Touchscreen.
And whether a touchscreen on Windows 11 is of any use to anyone is another philosophical question for another time.

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I probably would have preferred 1920x1080, but anything beyond that is overkill for a laptop. I can’t see the pixels on my 77" 4K TV unless I’m literally standing right next to it. I definitely don’t need that in a 17" laptop.

What I hate worse is having to scale beyond 100% in Windows, everything gets scrunched together (for example, websites), and older apps that don’t support it become blurry because they’re double the size they were intended to be. Some apps just look weird. And for gaming, I’d prefer higher framerates over resolution. Not to mention, the more pixels you have, the more horsepower you need to drive the display, which means less battery power.

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Thanks for the excellent comments!

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Anyone know what actual model this is, or even what family? I cannot find any references to the 17cn2007ds on HP’s website, or really anywhere else except referring back to woot. I did find a dead link on QVC, so maybe it was made for them? Looking for user manual, datasheet, service manual, etc. There does seem to be a 17-CN family, but I can’t find much on that either.

Also, some photos here show a fingerprint sensor (apparently), and some do not. I’m assuming we won’t be getting that. It also says touchscreen, but I’m skeptical.

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Everything on this looks great except the screen. Why 1600x900 HP

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Updated…

This appears to be the data for the series on the HP support site…
17-c2000 series

Didn’t even notice it was 1600x900. Touchscreen is VERY and I mean VERY useful when it’s done right on the correct screen.

I have it on my thinkpad for work which is 1080p and I got it for my sister on her xps which is 1440p. Because it’s a good screen it makes it useful.

The specs are good though. Could better be found? Definitely but that would require time and effort finding new (other) or open box laptops on ebay.

This HP is a none lineup version meaning it’s a random without a proper family name. Its not pavilion, it’s not a spectre, or other avaliable lineup meaning support will be limited since it’ll be considered one of a kind

On upgradable options it’s a 12gb ram model so some ram is soddered on and only one stick can be upgraded to a limit of what I imagine will a total up to 16gb of ram. It’ll have 8gb soddered on and a 4gb stick or worse it’ll be reversed and have a 4gb soddered on which would suck.

Drive is a 2.5 SSD in these big builds and battery will do okay. My experience with HP batteries is decent on that they last a while even with some gaming such as Dota but after one hour you’ll need to plug in.

Not a bad deal but a lot of compromises. Good buy for someone who needs a working machine quick and won’t look to upgrade it’s components and will eventually get a desktop or a proper laptop around 4 to 6 years down the line.

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It has two (2) SODIMM slots, it’s 12 GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM are configured as (1 x 8 GB and 1 x 4 GB) due to it’s description on the HP support site. Maximum memory supported: 16 GB, but I think it’s not true, it’ll support 32 GB (2x16) easy.
I’ll not buy this laptop because of it’s screen (the 1st reason) and it’s series (the 2nd reason). I kept several this ā€œnonameā€ laptops from HP and my hands and eуes didn’t like them ( especially after XPS’s, Pavillions, Elitebooks and even Probooks.
All above is only IMHO.

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Intel says the processor can do up to 64GB RAM, the actual amount supported will probably depend on whether HP put any limitations in BIOS for power/thermal constraints. I’ve successfully gone over the ā€œsupportedā€ amount of RAM on (non-HP) laptops before, but I always knew I was doing so at my own risk.

Although I have to think that if you need 64GB in a laptop, maybe this isn’t the best model to put it in.

What about this one for almost same price and looks like decent specs for the price but open to advice I order this but I can still cancel I think: (PS PS I realize it is renewed and I’m hoping that means that it will be reliable, and has 90 days return policy to give it a good check out. I’m not a gamer just looking for decent quality laptop for the price)

https://a.co/d/3Amhdtg

Lenovo 2023 Convertible 2-in-1 Laptop,14" IPS 2K(2240x1400) Touchscreen, Intel 10-Core Processor i7-1255U Up to 4.60GHz, 16GB Ram, 512GB SSD, Backlit Keyboard, Fingerprint Reader, Win11 OS(Renewed)

Gamers, photo editors, and video creators aren’t using a laptop of this class at all. For an office worker this will be disappointing because text will be fuzzy.

The only use I can think of this is for a senior with incredibly bad eyes, uncorrectable by reading glasses. Even then, screens this low-end tend to have bad brightness and contrast.

So that leaves pretty much no uses.

I’m a bit late to this comment, but I’d stay away from Lenovo, if possible. I’ve had a Lenovo laptop before and the screen had a flickering issue that was a known issue to Lenovo for that specific model since the first-gen model (I had the 3rd gen model).