The problem with all these lithium jump starters is they’re storage temps make them not really usable where I live for good chunks of time. This particular one says 23f to 113f. Where I live in the Midwest, it’s regularly gets colder than 23f in the winter, and car interiors easily get hotter than 113f in the summer.
I have a Noco, it has been under my rear seat for 3 years with no issues (yet). My truck is also black so it gets pretty hot in the summer time.
I agree. I’ve been buying these type of lithium jump starters for years now. I live in Florida. They have saved me a few times. However the heat is an issue. It easily gets hotter than the recommended storage temp from the manufacturer. I keep mine now in a lithium fireproof charging case in the vehicle. That way should it catastrophically fail from heat, the case will hopefully contain the fire. I have also had a few of these swell and crack open their cases and one where a liquid seeped out. All had to be recycled properly. I wish they would make the newer lithium battery technology (LiFePO) more available for these jumpers or I may just try the capacitor based jumper next time.
Can’t. Not only is LiFePO4 physically bulkier but more significantly, cannot offer the burst of current necessary for a starter motor, which can be in the hundreds of amps.
Other cell types, such as the LiPo cells these jumper packs usually use, can. They can deliver 50 to 100 times their current rating, meaning a small 5 amp hour battery can handle up to a 500 amp load.
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Those temps aren’t requirements though, just guidelines for optimum results. Anywhere in the world short of Antarctica gets above that temp in the summer in the car, and in the winter the majority of North America will get below that cold temperature. I’ve had one in my vehicle for years in the northwest where we were -40 last winter and it’s done fantastic so far. Don’t think twice to get one, you almost never see anyone complaining about temperature related failures of these for a reason.
Thanks I knew this family of battery technology had better options - just had the wrong subclass. In any event there is better technology available in the “LiPo” and I wish those options were more available. The three things to look for: 1. Can take high heat - like the inside of a black car in a hot state during summer 2. Won’t catch on fire - ever! 3. Won’t swell or leak. Fast or faster charger would be nice but not in the top 3. The current lithium jumpers have the potential to fail for the most part on those 3 things.
Got my shipment today. The 12v 10a output that shows in the user manual is not on the units. This is my reason for purchase. 20 ah 12v battery source. I will be returning.
Hello. thanks for letting us know. Looks like there’s been an update to this model. I’ll let our team know.