Pyle Bluetooth Health & Fitness Scale

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Pyle Bluetooth Health & Fitness Scale
Price: $34.99
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Shipping Estimates: Ships in 3-5 business days (Wednesday, Jan 15 to Monday, Jan 20) + transit
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Take a look at the Product Page

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Considering it. The price is comparable to a high-end digital/BMI scale (even though BMI functions are generally poorly implemented). Also checked the app in the Google Play Store, and the permissions are acceptable – nothing weird like finding accounts, accessing contacts or my phone number.

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Around $60 shipped elsewhere vs. $40 here.

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This is a nice motivator, if only because it’s fun and provides feedback. But don’t expect any of these BIA scales to be very accurate in measuring fat, muscles or bones. We tried them in a study on HIV wasting, and they were judged too irreproducible and variable to be medically useful. We ended up with a professional model which requires lying down and measures electrical flow from the fingers to toes. That gives a more accurate picture since the electrcity travel through most of the body, Handheld and scale models only measure the top or bottom halves of the body.

The biggest problem with these BIA machines is that they don’t measure fat, bone or muscles at all. They estimate water contents based on the impedance, or how much the electricity is impeded as it goes from point to point. The more water you have, the less impeded the electricity. Since muscles are composed mostly of water and fat contains very little water, electricity will flow faster through muscle than fat (fat is an insulator … that’s why our neurons are encased in lipid). An internal formula then guesses how much fat you have based on a database that was compiled using the averages of others with your age and sex.

For accurate measurements, you really need to measure yourself under identical conditions each time. Ideally, you should have an empty bladder and stomach (water in the intestines decreases impedance, confusing the scale). And no alcohol.

Even with professional models, we realize that it’s not a perfect measurement of body fat (most accurate are DEXA or water displacement tank). BUt they are very useful at keeping track of trends, i.e. more fat, less fat. And they are a nice motivator because you can watch the relative fat levels rising or falling. This unit is especially nice because you’re not limited to what’s in the scale. The software can be adjusted or replaced as necessary.

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I don’t know about this scale specifically, but Pyle makes a lot of junk. A lot of very cheap, poorly made products. I have read reviews of their other electronics and I own a car stereo of theirs. Very cheap and has numerous problems. The bottom line is, do your research before buying.

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[QUOTE=masilver, post:7, topic:407418]
I don’t know about this scale specifically, but Pyle makes a lot of junk. A lot of very cheap, poorly made products. I have read reviews of their other electronics and I own a car stereo of theirs. Very cheap and has numerous problems. The bottom line is, do your research before buying.
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I agree. Had two Pyle clock radios break within a month. But I know of no other BIA scale that has Bluetooth linkage for this price, and that’s the key to its effectiveness. See below for another weight-only scale, for a price comparison. The secret is all in the software. I have no reason to believe that the scale is any less accurate than any other home BIA scale, and the price is right, so I’d recommend trying one out for those who need an extra technological oomph for motivation.

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[QUOTE=masilver, post:7, topic:407418]
I don’t know about this scale specifically, but Pyle makes a lot of junk. A lot of very cheap, poorly made products. I have read reviews of their other electronics and I own a car stereo of theirs. Very cheap and has numerous problems. The bottom line is, do your research before buying.
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Yep, I’ll never buy another Pyle of Crap again. Pun intended.

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[QUOTE=sdc100, post:8, topic:407418]
I agree. Had two Pyle clock radios break within a month. But I know of no other scale that has Bluetooth linkage for this price, and that’s the key to its effectiveness. It’s all in the software. I have no reason to believe that the scale is any less accurate than any other home BIA scale, and the price is right, so I’d recommend trying one out for those who need an extra technological oomph for motivation.
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Hi, if you have a IPhone, I recommend this scale and the Loseit app. I have both and they work fine (sometimes bluetooth is a bit finikie).
http://www.amazon.com/Lose-Bluetooth-Scale-Health-Meter/product-reviews/B00F8GOURU

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[QUOTE=pturner3, post:10, topic:407418]
Hi, if you have a IPhone, I recommend this scale and the Loseit app. I have both and they work fine (sometimes bluetooth is a bit finikie).
http://www.amazon.com/Lose-Bluetooth-Scale-Health-Meter/product-reviews/B00F8GOURU/ref=sr_cr_hist_all?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
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Thanks, will definitely look into it. Am always interested in technologies to improve health.

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How does this thing do this? -

“Measures Body Fat, Hydration Levels, Muscle and Bone Level Percentages”

Does it send some electrical or other signal through your body to check resistance or something?

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I wish we could get some definitive reviews on this particular scale. All but one of the only six Amazon reviews sound like they came straight from the company. Amazon also shows a list price of $133 with a regular price of $59.99. So $35 is a good deal, but not if this is a piece of junk!

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[QUOTE=xdavex, post:12, topic:407418]
How does this thing do this? -

“Measures Body Fat, Hydration Levels, Muscle and Bone Level Percentages”

Does it send some electrical or other signal through your body to check resistance or something?
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You should read sdc100’s comment five or so above you to find out.

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Wow, so you’ve got to be running Android 4.3 Jelly Bean to link to this? That’ll cut out a lot of android folks. Would love to have this, but how about some info about backwards compatibility? (I’m pretty backwards, ICS on my tablet and GB on phone).
Thanks for any info you can provide.

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The top commenter on Amazon (submitted 14Dec2013) stated in the video that the Bluetooth was compatible with Android 4.0. Any verification of this anywhere?

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I was just wondering if you are locked into its app or can it be linked to other apps such as MyFitnessPal or any others? If I can only use their app, then it’s double the work to log it into my other health apps.

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The picture on the splash page has some kind of hybrid monstrosity of a phone. The top half is an HTC One and the bottom half is an iPhone.

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[QUOTE=sdc100, post:6, topic:407418]
This is a nice motivator, if only because it’s fun and provides feedback. But don’t expect any of these BIA scales to be very accurate in measuring fat, muscles or bones. We tried them in a study on HIV wasting, and they were judged too irreproducible and variable to be medically useful. We ended up with a professional model which requires lying down and measures electrical flow from the fingers to toes. That gives a more accurate picture since the electrcity travel through most of the body, Handheld and scale models only measure the top or bottom halves of the body.

The biggest problem with these BIA machines is that they don’t measure fat, bone or muscles at all. They estimate water contents based on the impedance, or how much the electricity is impeded as it goes from point to point. The more water you have, the less impeded the electricity. Since muscles are composed mostly of water and fat contains very little water, electricity will flow faster through muscle than fat (fat is an insulator … that’s why our neurons are encased in lipid). An internal formula then guesses how much fat you have based on a database that was compiled using the averages of others with your age and sex.

For accurate measurements, you really need to measure yourself under identical conditions each time. Ideally, you should have an empty bladder and stomach (water in the intestines decreases impedance, confusing the scale). And no alcohol.

Even with professional models, we realize that it’s not a perfect measurement of body fat (most accurate are DEXA or water displacement tank). BUt they are very useful at keeping track of trends, i.e. more fat, less fat. And they are a nice motivator because you can watch the relative fat levels rising or falling. This unit is especially nice because you’re not limited to what’s in the scale. The software can be adjusted or replaced as necessary.
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This is excellent information. I also appreciate you taking the time to write the extensive explanation. Most would not have taken the time. I agree that this is worth it for the relative measurements it gives you for body fat percentage, along with the Bluetooth connectivity. The only limiting factor I see is that Pyle tends to make products of suspect quality (judging by the posts). I think it’s worth the risk though…

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[QUOTE=sdc100, post:6, topic:407418]
This is a nice motivator, if only because it’s fun and provides feedback. But don’t expect any of these BIA scales to be very accurate in measuring fat, muscles or bones. We tried them in a study on HIV wasting, and they were judged too irreproducible and variable to be medically useful. We ended up with a professional model which requires lying down and measures electrical flow from the fingers to toes. That gives a more accurate picture since the electrcity travel through most of the body, Handheld and scale models only measure the top or bottom halves of the body.

The biggest problem with these BIA machines is that they don’t measure fat, bone or muscles at all. They estimate water contents based on the impedance, or how much the electricity is impeded as it goes from point to point. The more water you have, the less impeded the electricity. Since muscles are composed mostly of water and fat contains very little water, electricity will flow faster through muscle than fat (fat is an insulator … that’s why our neurons are encased in lipid). An internal formula then guesses how much fat you have based on a database that was compiled using the averages of others with your age and sex.

For accurate measurements, you really need to measure yourself under identical conditions each time. Ideally, you should have an empty bladder and stomach (water in the intestines decreases impedance, confusing the scale). And no alcohol.

Even with professional models, we realize that it’s not a perfect measurement of body fat (most accurate are DEXA or water displacement tank). BUt they are very useful at keeping track of trends, i.e. more fat, less fat. And they are a nice motivator because you can watch the relative fat levels rising or falling. This unit is especially nice because you’re not limited to what’s in the scale. The software can be adjusted or replaced as necessary.
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I can’t remember but having a pacemaker (or any other electrical implant, i.e. insulin pump?) might disqualify you from doing BIA. So be careful.

Metal implants, i.e. hip or knee replacements, might also affect the result since metal is an excellent conductor (even better than water!). Check to be sure. Breast implants shouldn’t matter though since they’re upper body and the liquid is enclosed in an insulator.

Those who can’t do BIA may still be able to use this as a regular scale though (am unsure if you can turn BIA off. Most BIA scales have that option). Tracking your weight alone is still helpful for weight loss (or weight gain). And $39 is still a good price for a non-BIA Bluetooth scale.

Sorry, I can’t be more informative but I haven’t done BIA in 10+ years.