Rutherford Hill Napa Valley Rosé 4-Pack
$49.99 $̶1̶1̶2̶.̶0̶0̶ 55% off List Price
2009 Rutherford Hill Napa Valley Rosé
2010 Rutherford Hill Napa Valley Rosé
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This looks like the real deal rose! If the winemaker should show up, I’m wondering if these grapes were grown and picked specifically for rose. What was the brix at harvest?
Hello Wooters! Happy to be back on board with you all. Who’s going to be first up here?
Happy to answer any questions you may have regarding our delicious rosé from Rutherford Hill.
Regards,
John
[QUOTE=klezman, post:3, topic:380688]
This looks like the real deal rose! If the winemaker should show up, I’m wondering if these grapes were grown and picked specifically for rose. What was the brix at harvest?
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This is the real deal rose. This wine was crafted in the European rose tradition, and is fantastic with food. It shows great fruit in the nose and on the approach, yet it is dry and full of flavor.
Brix at harvest was probably something in the mid 20’s. More importantly however is that this wine has no residual sugar. Its not a sweet rose - It s on the dry side with lots of flavor. Only 490 something cases produced. Hope that helps.
John Terlato
[QUOTE=terlatofamilyvineyards, post:5, topic:380688]
This is the real deal rose. This wine was crafted in the European rose tradition, and is fantastic with food. It shows great fruit in the nose and on the approach, yet it is dry and full of flavor.
Brix at harvest was probably something in the low to mid 20’s. More importantly however is that this wine has zero residual sugar. It s dry and incredibly flavorful. Only 490 something cases produced. Hope that helps.
John Terlato
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Did I also mention that it is delicious? I serve this wine chilled and it is super easy to drink. On hot sunny days the bottle doesn’t spend much time in the ice bucket. It’s usually being passed around and poured with lots of resulting smiles. Hope you enjoy our rosé.
Jt
[QUOTE=terlatofamilyvineyards, post:6, topic:380688]
Did I also mention that it is delicious? I serve this wine chilled and it is super easy to drink. On hot sunny days the bottle doesn’t spend much time in the ice bucket. It’s usually being passed around and poured with lots of resulting smiles. Hope you enjoy our rosé.
Jt
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Summer? Here in SoCal we enjoy a good dry rose year around. This is tempting but I’m trying to be good and not buy,
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Summer? Here in SoCal we enjoy a good dry rose year around. This is tempting but I’m trying to be good and not buy,
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This is where I am as well. But I do love a good rose. I’d like to know more about the specifics of the production. Contact time, saignee or bleed from other fermentations, etc. Mid 20’s brix seems a little high for rose grapes. Also what’s the pH/TA?
Lately I have seen some winemakers coming to the forum seemingly unprepared. While I applaud every single winemaker to come here and it is for me a strong pro ‘buy’ motivator to see them here, it baffles me that basic information such as ‘brix at harvest’ e.g. in this case cannot be provided precisely. “something in the mid 20s” is not very precise for example. I would assume that every winemaker would document that? This is not specifically criticizing this winemaker but more in general. Personally I tend to stay away from a purchase if I don’t know the wine and see little or blurry information… but maybe that is just me.
[QUOTE=klezman, post:8, topic:380688]
This is where I am as well. But I do love a good rose. I’d like to know more about the specifics of the production. Contact time, saignee or bleed from other fermentations, etc. Mid 20’s brix seems a little high for rose grapes. Also what’s the pH/TA?
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Please feel free to have a look at the offer details, which does indicate method of production and grape varietals.
Method is saignee (French for bleed) and grape varietals are merlot and Cabernet franc. These are grape varietals that we use in our regular production so want to be sure grapes are ripened to our satisfaction/needs when harvested. (Manning skins seed and pulp are ripened) Brix is not only a measure of sugar content, but is also a indicator of ripeness. Also recall that sugar is fermented to alcohol and the alcohol in this wine is 14.2%. Alcohol is counterbalanced by acidity, flavor and fruit. Acidity in this wine is characterized as “bright” but not overwhelmingly so and it is the underlying acidity of a wine that provides structure. The idea is to harvest the grapes when all of these elements are aligned, or as aligned as they can be given the growing conditions of that vintage. I will check the production records for the actual pH/TA measure and come back to you shortly. Hope this helps.
Jt
Am I missing something?
Direct sale is $100 for 12 + $50 shipping + sales tax.
Woot “deal” is $150 for 12 + $5 shipping + sales tax
So deal is truly a relative term here? Overprice the wine to look good for cheap shipping.
Sorry but really, really disapointed with what is going on at Woot right now.
This is not a comment on the quality of the wine which I have not heard a negative comment about.
I’ve always found Rose too sweet but sounds like this is the one to try…in for one
[QUOTE=andreaserben, post:9, topic:380688]
Lately I have seen some winemakers coming to the forum seemingly unprepared. While I applaud every single winemaker to come here and it is for me a strong pro ‘buy’ motivator to see them here, it baffles me that basic information such as ‘brix at harvest’ e.g. in this case cannot be provided precisely. “something in the mid 20s” is not very precise for example. I would assume that every winemaker would document that? This is not specifically criticizing this winemaker but more in general. Personally I tend to stay away from a purchase if I don’t know the wine and see little or blurry information… but maybe that is just me.
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Found rave reviews for the 2007. How do the 2009 and 2010 compare?
This winery visit includes brief comments on the 2010 rose:
[QUOTE=terlatofamilyvineyards, post:10, topic:380688]
Please feel free to have a look at the offer details, which does indicate method of production and grape varietals.
Method is saignee (French for bleed) and grape varietals are merlot and Cabernet franc. These are grape varietals that we use in our regular production so want to be sure grapes are ripened to our satisfaction/needs when harvested. (Manning skins seed and pulp are ripened) Brix is not only a measure of sugar content, but is also a indicator of ripeness. Also recall that sugar is fermented to alcohol and the alcohol in this wine is 14.2%. Alcohol is counterbalanced by acidity, flavor and fruit. Acidity in this wine is characterized as “bright” but not overwhelmingly so and it is the underlying acidity of a wine that provides structure. The idea is to harvest the grapes when all of these elements are aligned, or as aligned as they can be given the growing conditions of that vintage. I will check the production records for the actual pH/TA measure and come back to you shortly. Hope this helps.
Jt
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There is clearly a price differential between the 2009 and the “new release” 2010. Can you describe the difference between the two wines and what makes the 2010 a better year? Thank you.
[QUOTE=wootatoottoot, post:11, topic:380688]
Am I missing something?
Direct sale is $100 for 12 + $50 shipping + sales tax.
Woot “deal” is $150 for 12 + $5 shipping + sales tax
So deal is truly a relative term here? Overprice the wine to look good for cheap shipping.
Sorry but really, really disapointed with what is going on at Woot right now.
This is not a comment on the quality of the wine which I have not heard a negative comment about.
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Confused by what you mean by “direct sale”. If that means from the winery, list is $22.00. So 12 bottles would be $264, not $100. Where is a case of this $100?
[QUOTE=wootatoottoot, post:11, topic:380688]
Am I missing something?
Direct sale is $100 for 12 + $50 shipping + sales tax.
Woot “deal” is $150 for 12 + $5 shipping + sales tax
So deal is truly a relative term here? Overprice the wine to look good for cheap shipping.
Sorry but really, really disapointed with what is going on at Woot right now.
This is not a comment on the quality of the wine which I have not heard a negative comment about.
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you need a new abacus…woot’s $12 and change a bottle and the winery is$22…I can’t even find any '09…
[QUOTE=kaolis, post:16, topic:380688]
Confused by what you mean by “direct sale”. If that means from the winery, list is $22.00. So 12 bottles would be $264, not $100. Where is a case of this $100?
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See Here
This is only the 2009, not half 2010. BUT it does come out cheaper by $12 for me if I were to buy a case direct.
EDIT Looks like you can’t link directly to the case. Under current releases, it’s the 8th or 9th in the list
[QUOTE=terlatofamilyvineyards, post:13, topic:380688]
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To be fair (and transparent), I am the owner of Rutherford Hill Winery a not the wine maker.
Marisa Taylor is the winemaker, and not only is she a wonderful person, she IMHO, is a incredibly talented winemaker (a perspective which has been supported for years by wine writers and critics galore). If she were on the boards with us today, she would surely rattle off very precise answers to these questions. I however would want to reference our production records to be accurate.
And please know that we do keep meticulous harvest and production records for a multiplicity of data points. It’s a mind boggling array of information in fact. Please look to the discussion board later for precise answers to brix and actual pH/TA.
Please also note that my answer regarding alcohol and residual sugar was very precise. Brix is the measure of sugar content in he grapes at harvest and sugar is converted to alcohol through fermentation. So while sugar is an interesting start of the conversation, alcohol and residual sugar measurements are the end result of the winemaking process and the elements most perceived in a finished wine. That is why we, as owners, focus on discussions of alcohol and residual sugar, as that is often more relevant to that which the a wine consumer tastes in finished wines.
I hope this helps and clarifies.
John
[QUOTE=jhrdy724, post:18, topic:380688]
See Here
This is only the 2009, not half 2010. BUT it does come out cheaper by $12 for me if I were to buy a case direct.
EDIT Looks like you can’t link directly to the case. Under current releases, it’s the 8th or 9th in the list
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Sorry, I’m still confused. I do now see where there is a 10% discount from the winery on a case. And 20% off for club members. But nowhere do I see a discount that brings it down to $100 a case as you stated. If the club is discount is still $17+ a bottle, plus ship/tax.
EDIT Got it! The case of '09 for $100.