Dell Latitude 7414 Rugged 14" Laptop

Dell Latitude 7414 Rugged 14" Laptop

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Keep in mind this does not officially support Windows 11 and Windows 10 will stop being supported in October of next year.
It would probably work very well with many Linux distros though :smiley:

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Agreed, the Latitude series in general is Linux-friendly and these rugged laptops seem to be popular with those who want a cyberdeck style computer without the time or skill to build one.

This one seems well suited to make people at Starbucks awkwardly stare at you and slowly back away. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

EDIT: Link to the manual:

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What’s the difference between a ā€˜14"’ screen and a ā€˜14.0"’ screen, between ā€œRefurbished - Grade Aā€ and ā€œRefurbished - Grade Aā€, between ā€œ16GB RAM / 512 GB SSDā€ and ā€œ16G/512G SSDā€?

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I was wondering the same, actually!

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Interesting, but 768 vertical resolution sucks.

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I wondered that too, but as you select different grades, the different sizes become available.

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Tagging @viriiman …

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It’d be nice if the listing included what the battery capacity was. There are four different battery capacities available for this laptop at 58, 65, 87, and 97 Wh. Of course, I imagine that the battery capacity will be half-shot on a refurb like this anyway, but still.

Usually (not always) the issue with Win11 support is the version of the TPM.

TIL that some 1.2 TPM’s can be firmware upgraded to 2.0, thus giving you Win11 upgrade options.

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000132583/dell-systems-that-can-upgrade-from-tpm-version-1-2-to-2-0

This note on that page:

NOTE: Systems that shipped with Intel 6th and 7th Generation processors (i7-7xxx, i5-7xxx, i3-7xxx, i7-6xxx, i5-6xxx, i3-6xxx) are not eligible to upgrade to Windows 11. Upgrading to TPM 2.0 does not bypass this Microsoft requirement.

This clearly references these machines, which ship with an i5-6300U. The reason for that is the CPU is not a supported CPU for either of the distros of Win11 listed here:

Apparently easy enough to get around:

Win11 isn’t too much of a dog if you really take the time to turn a bunch of stuff off. I’d also want to upgrade this to 32gb if I was going to go with it (which I’m not - my rugged needs are being met by a Samsung Active tablet at the moment). But it’s a thing you can do:

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Agree. 1080p or nothing for me. 4k, even with scaling, things get weird. I like it on a single big external monitor, but not at all in a laptop panel.

My caveat to any of the workarounds for installing W11 on an unsupported PC is that it’s an extremely precarious situation to be in. There is nothing stopping Microsoft from (intentionally or not) making your PC unusable with a Windows update. While I admit the chances of that happening without being reverted are probably slim, if this is going to be your only computer, you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack in a regrettable scenario and there’s really nothing to do about it (aside from installing another OS altogether).

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Like with the refurbished Blink cameras, it’s a designation of version or model or box of the computer but there’s no real difference.

Yes, I know that’s not the proper verbiage but it’s the best I can think of at the moment.:smiling_face:

if this is going to be your only computer

I would agree with this. Your daily driver should be something getting regular security patches, as a matter of best practice.

Something very purpose-oriented is less critical, as long as you take sensible security measures. You’re limiting your attack surface along the dimension of time.

For example, if I was going to buy one of these, I’d leave it on Win10. It’s little different than the fact that Samsung no longer is releasing security updates for my Active tablet. I don’t use it too much, and when I do a fair bit of the time it’s not connected to the internet.

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Hi! Whoops! I have made sure this is more clear. Just spacing/numbering issues from importing.

It looks like these things are selling like hotcakes. There’s gonna be a lot of unhappy people once they see that 1366x768 screen. That resolution looks bad on an 11" screen, it ought to be horrible on a 14" screen.

I feel like a laptop like this should have access to government satellites, but it probably doesn’t support a satellite connection. :frowning:

I just want to buy crap from Woot from the hood of my truck! Now that’s manly right there!!

Did I hear my name…

blaineg

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Oh why not.

Because I’m me, I decided to install Windows 11 on an unsupported machine (specifically the mystery desktop I bought from Woot a year and change ago).

The process was really simple. I downloaded installation media for Windows 11 onto a USB drive from Microsoft’s website after a quick search. I made one edit to the registry using the registry editor and following instructions carefully. After loading the installation media on the USB drive, it’s easy to run setup and follow the prompts to install Windows 11. It didn’t prompt for activation this way, it was ostensibly able to pick up the valid Windows 10 Pro license.

I make no guarantees this will work for anyone else, this was just my experience with it.

The guide I found was here: Ways to install Windows 11 - Microsoft Support

It also seems possible to fairly easily go back to Windows 10 from Windows 11 (assuming the install completes ok):

I hope this helps somehone out there.

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