I find it amusing that these bottles are being marketed as eco-friendly. The carbon footprint of each bottle is equal to about 1000 plastic bottles. In other words, you would have to use each bottle more than 1000 times to be more environmentally friendly than plastic bottles.
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I find it amusing that these bottles are being marketed as eco-friendly. The carbon footprint of each bottle is equal to about 1000 plastic bottles. In other words, you would have to use each bottle more than 1000 times to be more environmentally friendly than plastic bottles.
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This is made of 304 type Stainless , like:
From Wiki… Stainless steel - Wikipedia
“Gateway Arch (pictured) is clad entirely in stainless steel: 886 tons (804 metric tonnes) of 0.25 in (6.4 mm) plate, #3 finish, type 304 stainless steel.[11]”
Type 316 is said to be better, this is ok
STAINLESS STEELS FOR FOOD-GRADE APPLICATIONS
The stainless steel of choice in the food services industry is the austenitic 300 series. The stainless used for good pots (like Vollrath) is usually 304. Less expensive pots are often made of 303 alloy stainless, which is less weldable and is quickly attacked by chlorinated cleaners. Other stainless kitchen equipment, like utensils, are typically ferritic stainless, which has less chromium and nickel and is less acid-neutral.
The 300 series of stainless steels was originally developed for use in cryogenics. These steels also perform well at elevated temperatures and are used extensively for steam pipes and exhaust systems. It is their resistance to elevated temperature, oxidation, and corrosion that makes alloys 304 and 316 the choice for food preparation equipment, including steam-heated boilers and storage tanks. But every silver lining has its cloud, and when it comes to joining stainless steel, that cloud is heat. The metallurgy that makes these alloys corrosion resistant and strong also makes welding more difficult than is the case with ordinary steel.
METALLURGY BASICS
What makes a steel stainless? The addition of chromium and nickel to the iron creates a significant percentage of chromium and nickel atoms at the surface. These atoms form tenacious oxides that seal the surface and prevent oxidation of the iron.
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Don’t know anything as to the quality of the product. It does look to be of good quantity though, as I would want my water bottles to hold at least 20oz.
That being said, I still use plastic water bottles. I use the same plastic water bottle for 3 months at a time, then recycle them and replace them with new ones.
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You kids and your fancy drinkin’ bottles. When I was growin’ up in Texas we drank from a muddy hoofprint and were dang glad to get it. Ya bunch of wussies.
Forgive me if someone already suggested this as an alternative, I read through most of the comments and didn’t see anyone mention Camelbak bottles. I almost pulled the trigger on these but then I remembered how much I hate “sport tops” with the pop up valve, I’ve never had one that hasn’t developed a leak after very few uses. about 9 months ago I found Camelbak bottles and decided to try it out since I love their hydration backpacks… Couldn’t be happier, I literally use the thing several times every day and the only issue is the bite valve is starting to wear out (but i have been especially hard on my bite valve, my wifes bottle doesn’t have the same problem) however the valves are easily replaced and are inexpensive. dont be too turned off by the high price, if you do a little searching you can find them as cheap as $6 to $7 a bottle.
Well, I like my stainless bottle, (bought else where) and like that no matter, it’s durable, dents & all. That being said, I noticed in the description that it says that this will NOT make cheap vodka taste better… I have never heard that before, BUT I can tell you how to make cheap vodka taste better: filter it! Yep, that’s right, just run it through your Britta a couple times.
(Disclaimer: It doesn’t work if you’re under 21).
BTW, think I will get a couple of these cheap babies for random gifts.
According to one health store owner I talked to, Klean Kanteen uses the highest “medical” grade stainless steel. He warned me to be careful as a lot of other companies use a cheaper grade, which is not as safe. I have no idea if that was valid or not, but it was just the kind of paranoid story a health store owner should be telling its customers. So I bought one on principle. I am very happy with Klean Kanteen.
Hmm. Just ran off to check. I have a 26 oz Klean Kanteen and recently picked up an EcoCanteen at my local odd-lot store (for 8.95 with a nifty neoprene sleeve and shoulder strap). The Klean Kanteen is heavier and feels more substantial, but they are the same size and the caps are interchangeable with a good seal. These are the loop caps. I was afraid the EcoCanteen was aluminum, but sure enough, magnets stick to it. Without chewing gum. Ordinary ice cubes pass easily through the neck and keep the drink cool for easily 4-6 hours. Longer if you roll the bottle in a towel. It is also handy to secure the remains of one of those jumbo 32 oz beverages when you’re ready to take off. Juice, Coca-cola and Dr. Pepper have very nicely cleaned the interior of the canteen (it is unlined on the inside). But DONT, DONT, DONT buy directly from Eco-Canteen.com!
HA! Love it!
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Interesting, aluminum has a thermal conductivity of 250 W/m.K while stainless steel is only 16 W/m.K. Of course, both are high compared to plastics (styrofoam is .033 W/m.K).
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The conductivity of the metal may be moot, because water is even better. Maybe the bottles should come with a warning not drink while working with high voltage wire??
Besides, they say that drinking too cold a beverage is not really good for you anyway.
I have one of these that I paid much more for. It does not insulate but does not leach anything and is a great bottle. The company that sells them “is” less than ethical and does treat people badly. But they don’t make the product and whoever does did a good job. 2 for $10 shipped? A steal.
Seriously Folks… These F*#^ing water bottles not heart defibrillators! Who cares if they are made and sold by the freaking Yakuza or the Sisters of Mercy! They are empty stainless-steel containers that hold water. They are not insulated so don’t expect cold water after an hour of hiking or biking. They probably sweat a bit but then again, so should you.
If it had just a regular cap I’d grab a pair…I hate those little spout doohickeys…besides! With a plastic sports bottle, you squeeze it to get water out faster…what do you do with this? I can’t be shaking and shaking…I’m a fast drinker and got places to go!
We find it amusing that some people would post arbitrary comments like this without substantiating it with proof (even a wiki citation would do…
Obviously you must be from the plastic council.
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be weary folks…
http://www.thegreenestdollar.com/2009/02/eco-canteen-product-review/
I love my kleenkanteen (yes it was $16 for one, but none of what you will read in the link)
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Ouch! Those are some seriously bad reviews. I was about to be in for 4, but I think I’ll pass. Thanks for the link.
Nice research!
As long as you don’t put anything acidic in it you should be fine, but make sure you at least rinse it out, until you get a chance to properly wash it.
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Is this double-walled? I have a stainless steel water bottle that isn’t, and it can’t keep anything cold.
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No. so it will sweat just like most sports bottles. however, 2 for the price of 1 at Walmart (after the $5 woot) is good enough to give it a shot.
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I was thinking about buying these and keeping one at the gym as an extra to keep my protein powder with. I have a regular shaker, but I have days where I forget to bring it with me, and I live waaay too far to just go home and get my regular shaker. Would my shake react with the steel if I mixed it with this canteen?
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Stainless steel is completely inert and is recommended for use by people with MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) above plastic because it doesn’t leach anything at all into foods. I’m not a chemist, but I’d say you’re probably alright.
Hold on. I have read a number of the reviews and issues are with customer service not product.
Has any one see any real issues with the product like poor quaility linings?