JVC 1080p LCD HDTV
$449.99 + $5 Standard Shipping
Condition: Refurbished
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4.5 stars on 13 reviews on Amazon for the 47" model
http://www.amazon.com/JVC-JLC47BC3000-47-Inch-1080p-LCD/dp/B0056VM8OO
Ahh, you ship in a brown paper bag, hey? I like it already…!
Has anyone read any reviews on this TV?
For use as a computer monitor, is there a noticeable difference between 1080p and 720?
To be clear, 32" $199.99, 37" $249.99, 42" $349.99, 47" $449.99
manual for all 4 TV’s, looks like:
http://resources.jvc.com/Resources/00/01/51/18.PDF
Link to the 47": if you go to the bottom of the page, you can find links to the other 3
http://tv.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL028922&pathId=200&page=10
Your thighness, if that’s you in the picture, the copyrighted next line would be “Does she come with the TV?”
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Your thighness, if that’s you in the picture, the copyrighted next line would be “Does she come with the TV?”
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We both wish that was me in that picture. :wah:
although only 2.5 stars on pcmag’s review
“If you want a large HDTV with a less-than-$1,000 list price, the JVC JLC47B3000 is one of the few displays that qualify. Unfortunately, its almost-nonexistent feature set and middling picture quality can’t justify its price tag,”
but that was at $949 and that was in november 2011.
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For use as a computer monitor, is there a noticeable difference between 1080p and 720?
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Absolutely. The native resolution of this monitor is 1920x1080. A 720p monitor is 1280x720 (or 1366x768, depending on the unit)…far too low of a resolution for use as a computer monitor.
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although only 2.5 stars on pcmag’s review
“If you want a large HDTV with a less-than-$1,000 list price, the JVC JLC47B3000 is one of the few displays that qualify. Unfortunately, its almost-nonexistent feature set and middling picture quality can’t justify its price tag,”
but that was at $949 and that was in november 2011.
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It’s best to include links when referring to reviews. Thanks!
I had a JVC Stereo Reciever - Bad.
I had a JVC Camcorder - Bad.
I had a JVC Car Stereo - Bad.
I had a set of JVC Headphones - Bad.
Why would I buy this?
Because I never learned!
HA! Yes, I did. I bought Sony and Sharp LED HDTV’s - GOOD!
Bought a 42" recently and it’s really good with good sound. Mother in law has it hooked up to SD cable, not HD, and picture is much better than I expected from other tvs.
I’m looking for a 24" got any of those laying around?
Anybody know which formats the video player supports (via USB)? I can’t find it in the manual.
I have the 32" model (exact same one) that I bought for $300 new from Amazon back in May of this year. I am very happy with it!
The price was a steal at $300 (and I had to leap on it once one was stocked, as it’s constantly out-of-stock on Amazon) and I’m actually tempted to buy a second one at this price for no other reason than to get a second one.
I am a videophile - I have a B.A. in Arts & Technology (specialization in Computer Animation) and I get perfect scores on so-called “Color IQ” tests - and I really do enjoy this screen. Sure, it’s not a high-end Samsung LED display, but it is very very nice for the price.
The colors and contrast on this screen are super-rich. I LOVE bright colors and high contrast (I’d plug my art website to prove my point, but I ain’t no sellout, yo) but on this TV I generally have to keep fairly moderate color/contrast settings by my standards because this TV’s actually TOO effective with them and can easily destroy an otherwise acceptable image if the settings are too extreme. Also, the blacks, even in a dark room and not viewed dead-on, are very rich…especially considering this is not an LED display. One look at the model line’s name (“BlackCrystal 3000”) and you know that rich blacks were at the top of the dev team’s list.
The viewing angle is excellent. Viewing the screen dead-on is ideal, as with any LCD, and the color shift off-center is really quite minimal. Other than that initial shift from perfect in the center, there is effectively zero color/contrast pollution when viewing the screen from ANY angle. I’ve literally smushed my face up to the side of the bezel to try and sneak a peak at any form of bad viewing angle on this TV and I honestly can’t find one.
The sound is incredible for built-in speakers. I have never been a fan of TVs or stations that automatically adjust the volume to be louder in quiet spots and quieter in louder spots (in fact I’ve almost universally hated it) but this TV seems to do it smoothly and subtly enough that I hardly ever even notice it.
ONE NOTE THOUGH: If you have the fancy faux-surround-sound thingy turned on along with the TruVolume adjustimicator turned on, MAKE SURE you turn down your volume before you click on a menu item on your Wii. The HISSSS/whoosh noise that a Wii makes when it zooms in on the home screen menu is REALLY SUPER LOUD and too short for the TV to auto-adjust itself.
One more thing: I have seen loooots of HDTVs that take forever to turn on…anywhere up to 50 seconds. This TV thankfully comes in at the quick end. The backlight turns on in about a second, there’s a very brief JVC logo, and then it goes to its last-used input and loads the feed. Average turn-on time for mine from power button pressed to completely on is about 5-6 seconds (more like 8-10 seconds on HDMI input).
I set out several years ago in search of a Samsung 32" 1080p HDTV for $300 or under. After ages of waiting I decided on this TV as a graduation present for myself, and I am very happy with it.
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For use as a computer monitor, is there a noticeable difference between 1080p and 720?
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That really depends on the size of the screen. The larger the screen, the more noticeable the difference. For a 32" monitor, most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the two at about 5’ away (the minimum recommended viewing distance). Keep in mind that 720p TVs can display 1080i, so the resolution is equivalent. Progressive scanning (the ‘p’) is only important in moving images because it allows a smoother picture. So if you mostly look at static images, i.e. text or webpages, or interlaced (the ‘i’) sources, then 1080p is unnecessary. Also note that currently, no TV stations are broadcasting in 1080p. They’re either 720p or 1080i. 1080p is used mostly in Blu-Ray discs and action video games. Regardless, I wouldn’t recommend anything beyond 27" for a computer monitor where you’ll read a lot of text.
Warning! the 37 and 32 inch do not do video according to the spec table. Only picture. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Keep in mind with these 1080p HD TVS, they WILL eventually be obsolete. HD+ is coming out eventually, which is beyond the resolution of full HD, more like 2160p. So if you are buying a TV now, thinking it’s future proof, it’s not.
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That really depends on the size of the screen. The larger the screen, the more noticeable the difference. For a 32" monitor, most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the two at about 5’ away (the minimum recommended viewing distance). Keep in mind that 720p TVs can display 1080i, so the resolution is equivalent. Progressive scanning (the ‘p’) is only important in moving images because it allows a smoother picture. So if you mostly look at static images, i.e. text or webpages, or interlaced (the ‘i’) sources, then 1080p is unnecessary. Also note that currently, no TV stations are broadcasting in 1080p. They’re either 720p or 1080i. 1080p is used mostly in Blu-Ray discs and action video games. Regardless, I wouldn’t recommend anything beyond 27" for a computer monitor where you’ll read a lot of text.
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Regarding 1080i and 720p being equivalent resolutions, I respectfully disagree. 720 has a resolution of either 1280x720 or 1366x768 (921,600 or 1,049,088 total pixels) depending on the screen, while 1080 has a resolution of 1920x1080 (2,073,600 total pixels).
I’m going to assume that you know the differences, but I feel compelled by my Adderall to explain this in detail for anyone else that might be interested.
Full HD has more than double the total amount of pixels of 720HD, which means that double the amount of information can be displayed by the computer. This means that more icons, windows, or text can fit onto the screen.
The “p” and “i” have to do with the signal of the video. “P” in this case means progressive-scan, meaning that ALL of the image is sent at-once to the display. If a signal is 1080 HD 30p, that means that on every 1/30th of a second, a complete 1080 HD image is sent to the TV. If the signal were instead 720 HD and 24p, then a complete 720 HD image would be sent to the screen every 1/24th of a second.
The “i” in 1080i stands for “interlaced”. Interlaced videos send their images in halves. A full HD image is 1920 pixels wide and 1080 pixels tall. What 1080i interlacing does is send images that are 1920 pixels wide but only 540 pixels tall. Interlaced HD signals are usually 1080 @ 60i, which means that they send half of an HD image once every 1/60th of a second. It splits the image in rows of odd and even pixels, sending the odd rows first and the even rows second. Once they reach the display , they’re put back together into one image again.
Since progressive videos usually run at 30 frames-per-second and interlaced images usually run at 60 half-frames-per-second, the assembled image on the display will refresh as the exact same rate between 720p and 1080i. The difference is that, for static images, 1080i has more than double 720p’s resolution.
Interlaced images are considered inferior to progressive signals when movement is involved, though, because of the way they work. Since the two halves of an interlaced image arrive at the display 1/60th of a second apart from each other, they sometimes don’t line up perfectly. If something on-screen is moving quickly, it will appear artificially stretched or oddly blurred on the TV, while the same video sent with a progressive signal won’t suffer from any artificial blurring like that.