Logitech Wireless Play Link

Yup.
Up to 1.5 Mbps data rate
From http://www.dewassoc.com/performance/memory/MB_vs_Mb.htm
“A bit is a single character of data (0 zero or 1 one). A byte is eight characters of data. Therefore, eight bits make a byte. Your computer processes information in a series of eight bits, or, one byte.”

So 1.5 Mbps = 0.1875 MBps

Like mud.

I still don’t get it…

Speed is fine for printing and such I suppose but a wireless bridge seems like a much better solution. I guess it is nice to not have to set anything up. They look kind of big though

Actually- NiCd or NiMh batteries would be better for voltage than alkalines. They taper off on voltage all at once (relatively), while alkalines steadily lose voltage through their lifetimes. It’s better to run an DC appliance off a battery that maintains a more constant voltage throughout the discharge, then drops off rapidly at the end instead of just creeping slowly down to nothing. The alkalines could easily drop below the usable voltage for the Play Link, but still have more than enough juice left to run the boxes for a while- if they had the correct potential.

I’m constantly running into limitations with even 100Mb connections, let alone 10Mb or 11Mb; a 700MB CD image, for example, takes more than a minute with Fast Ethernet, and well over 10 times that with 10Mb Ethernet or 802.11b WiFi. Trust me, low throughput gets old real fast.

Nah. I maintain a steady download stream of 450kB/s+ 24/7, and that’s on standard Cox cable. I often spike up over 500kB/s+ for hours at a time, and my connection is only rated to run at 4MB/s.

Logitech claims that the communication is encrypted and they also claim that there in no latency. This is impossible because all encryption adds latency.

can these be used with those office phones that use ethernet-like cables? I would like to move my phone a lil freely without a yellow/blue wire going across

Sorry 'bout that. You WERE looking at completed auctions. Sigh!

Borg subspace network.

KuoH

Well Ethernet cabling is occasionally used for voice applications. With 8 conductors, a single Ethernet cable can hold 4 voice lines. Fast Ethernet uses only the 4 outer conductors, so you can actually use the inner pairs for 2 voice lines at the same time! Gigabit Ethernet does use all 8 conductors, however.

You have an interesting question, though, which I can’t answer. These may or may not work for voice-only applications. They’re cheap enough to try it out, though.

No, no, no. Definitely not. Absolutely do not try that. While some digital office phone systems may use an ethernet style connector, they are not ethernet compliant. Not only are the cables typically wired different than ethernet, but the voltages and signals are not the same. I don’t mean to sound harsh, but if you try that you’re likely to fry:
a) the logitech wireless box(es)
b) the phone
c) the office phone system
or
d) all of the above

Just ordered my self a pair…seems good for me…i have a xbox 360 and cant put it up in my room becuase my router is downstairs so i’m hoping this will work perfect with my 360 if so then i might just order another one from ebay.

Show me where Logitech says these have "no latency’…thought so.

They are going for very cheap on ebay right now. Cool, though.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=Logitech+Wireless+Play+Link+

Almost everything you send on the network, any network, these days is encrypted. Latency is not CPU time to encrypt, it is delay in the network due to congestion. SInce these are point to point, technically there is no latency.

Spectrum info: 802.16bg is 2.4Ghz, 802.16a is 5.2Ghz. These spectrums tend to bounce off walls and bags of water ( um, you) and do not penetrate house parts very well, as I am sure a lot of you have experienced. 900Mhz, on the other hand, is that lower bandwidth spectrum that will penetrate almost anything without slowing down. Your cordless phones are typically (at least the good ones) 900Mhz.

900Mhz is excellent for getting from one end of your house to the other. In rare cases it may interfere with a cheap cordless 900Mhz phone that doesn’t know how to channel hop, but you shouldn’t have any problems.

Not a bad price for this item especially since it is new. The major PROS seem to be the true plug-n-play setup and the low cost. Perfect for users that can’t navigate the config and/or can’t afford the cost to setup a secure wireless network.

Personally, though, these are of no value to me and I am surprised by the number of positive posts in the forum. Surely the average wooter has seen enough deals on wireless network equipment to have already obtained such devicery. From the technical and insightful commentary in many of the other woot forum threads I assumed the average wooter was a little beyond plugging up a Linksys router and running wide open to host connectivity for the whole neighborhood, and surely most of us can afford at least the cheaper wireless gear based on the number of other woots we are all snapping up. Maybe I am wrong or missing out on some other key benefits of this woot.

Final comment: surprised woot didn’t save these for the next “two for Tuesday” since there are technically 2 units in the package… LOL Hope they don’t show up again and especially not in the woot-off.

so, do these work with tivo?

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php

:wink:

I thought these would be an appropriate Tuesday item too.

Anyways, I’m also trying to decide on just how useful these items are. I don’t really have any Ethernet-only devices, but my brothers have a PS2 and XBOX which these devices would be great for (and are intended for). I don’t really know how much interest they have in playing their consoles online. Also, I don’t think these items can connect multiple units at the same time, like in a network with a ring topology; I think it’s just one to another, meaning that each set is just one connection. That’s not so bad by itself, but I can’t really find any applications for such a low-bandwidth connection. These could certainly be useful in making a quick connection between, say, a switching hub and a newly-added computer, but in the end the low throughput really bothers me. It would impact performance too greatly to make it worth using the items; setting up a proper wired or wireless connection would be more efficient in the long run. With that in mind (it helps to type it all out) I don’t think I’ll be buying these items unless my brothers think they would actually use them, or possibly if I come up with some new use for them.

No problem, just add a switching regulator to keep the voltage at a nice, steady 6v…until the bottom drops out.

Or maybe not.

All in all, kind of a neat idea, but the 1.5Mbps is a killer for me. Guess I’ll just have to get out the power tools and instlal some RJ-45 jacks behind the TV.